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January 15, 2008
Three New Voting Features, More to Come
Greetings from Blog Cabin headquarters!
There are three more cabin features that need your vote: the style of log (all of which have their merits - a more difficult choice than I anticipated), type of fireplace and light fixture style for the porch.
Although the San Jacinto floor plan destroyed the competition, there are no runaways in this group. Tell us what you think of the choices and where your passions lead you.
Attention Bloggers: we are listening! Great suggestions have been pouring in, including:
- Extending the back porch.
- Adding a second set of stairs accessing the lake front.
- Moving the washer and dryer set to a better spot for cheerier washing duty.
- Adding windows to the exterior of the upper great room for more outdoor light into 2nd level.
- The addition of a bathtub upstairs.
No promises on any modications yet, but host Ahmed Hassan and the construction team are reading and responding constantly. Keep those informed observations coming!
Future Voting Features (to name just a few): roofing material, countertops, flooring, backsplash and window treatments, plus over 30 more - stay tuned!
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Regarding the idea of placing the washer and dryer in a more scenic position. I personally would like to see the room across from the washer/dryer used as a folding/ironing station. This is also a good spot for storage of beach towels and cleaning supplies. A laundry sink in this area for hand washables, filling buckets, etc is also nice. I would much rather have a window where I fold and iron than where I actually have the washer.
On a completely different subject. It would be beautiful to place the fire place as a double sided fire place, between the foyer and great room. Open spaces are nice, but so is separation from the powder room and front door. Also the fire place would be visible from the dining room. In addition this would open up the view of the lake to a full wall of windows and make that view a separate focal point.
Posted by: Michelle at January 15, 2008 6:32 PM
I have voted for the 8" round logs, (even though it appears that many prefer the D-Logs), and why, because the 8" round logs lends itself toward the more traditional log cabin feel and that's what this is about, correct? (I will be the first to admit that I don't know much about which log system is the more efficient in regard to insulation, tho'!)
I also voted for the sconce lighting, again in the name of "tradition." (And the ease of changing the lightbulbs!) :-}
And lastly, I see that the wood burning fireplace is taking the lead and rightfully so...(tradition, right), not to mention it's warming benefits as opposed to a gas log fireplace. (Although no fireplace is going to actually warm a large room with a high loft area) BUT, let me add one very important factor in choosing the fireplace. The gas log fireplace is a much cleaner source environmentally, not to mention that many people suffer from allergies and asthma nowadays and a wood burner can cause severe breathing problems for many! Just hoping this last aspect will be taken into consideration. The rest is definite icing on the cake. :-}
Posted by: Sherry Thompson at January 15, 2008 6:37 PM
This is very exciting! I appreciate how you listen to us, here's my opinions:
Extending the back porch would be great but there's so much porch in the plan so not really needed.
Adding a second set of stairs to access the lake front, another great idea, do it!
Moving the washer and dryer is not important to me, I put it in and walk away, but it appears theres a small empty room across from the laundry area, if so that may be an option.
Adding windows to the exterior of the upper great room for more outdoor light into 2nd level would be very helpful, do it!
I would not want a bath tub upstairs, showers are fine there.
What about space for a garage? though not part of the plan, is it acceptable to build one later?
I look forward to watching the Blog Cabin Progress! Thank you!
Posted by: Maureen at January 15, 2008 7:01 PM
These are all great modifications which would make this cabin even more spectacular. I say YES!!! to all of them. :)
Posted by: Sherry at January 15, 2008 7:19 PM
Need stairs off the deck in back and close to fireplace. Hate to carry wood all the way around the porch.
Posted by: Cathy at January 15, 2008 7:23 PM
Listen all you log cabin lovers, although I agree the traditional round log style is always the best choice, in this case I think the square style works better. Lakefront Estates looks a little more upscale and I think the square style fits in better. I am also hoping for windows in the second floor loft area. That area would be a great place for "overflow" guests. Is there any way to allow one of the bathrooms on the second floor to open into the loft area?
Posted by: Jenny at January 15, 2008 7:26 PM
san jacinto was my vote so i'm excited to see it get the win...can you just imagine the christmas lights framing the windows? i love this house already!!
i'm voting for the 8" round log for this reason: the round log is more traditional and the full round log will be visible where they come out at the ends rather than the half "d" shape logs that are currently in the lead!
i have a suggestion for a reading room...since the blueprints are set i thought maybe off the master bedroom along with the fireplace, could be really wonderful! my other idea is the addition of a stained glass window for the front door/entry way. i saw it this week on diy and i loved it! i'm for the wood burning stove all the way and think the hanging light will be perfect. is there any thought of a basement or storm shelter...?...this is tennessee and they also provide additional storage space etc. the safe room put in place on extreme home makeovers was large enough for emergency supplies but was a part of the house, just looked like one of the rooms! more ideas as we go, brenda :)
Posted by: brenda orton at January 15, 2008 8:19 PM
Hey there! Definately some issues with the website, as others have said. I just wanted to try to find some info on the three items before voting. Couldn't get any details, then it said I already voted! NOT! Didn't vote for one item, much less all three.
I'd like to get details on the lights, logs and whatever the third one is.
Also, all that talk about building the NEXT next Blog Cabin out west...yeah, yeah yeah, well I live in Illinois...so you can work your way out west. How about doing the next cabin in, mmmm say Wisconsin (Door Cnty, so/west unglaciated, central, north, along da Lake Michigan, etc.) Hey dare, derz plenty o' lakes alll arund da state, an' bluffs an' such! Or perhaps in say, Illinois along the Ole' Man, out Galena way. Pretty dare hilly and pretty out there too...plus close to ME..on the of chance I don't win this one on Watts Bar in TN.
Posted by: Kim Mc at January 15, 2008 8:19 PM
Hi, this is the first time that I have been involved in voting for the blog cabin and it is so much fun. I hope to win but it is fun just being in on making a dream cabin for someone. I can't think of anything I would change or add at this time but if I think of anything I will be sure to send it your way. I enjoyed watching them build the 2007 cabin on TV but I did not know at that time how it all started so I logged in on your web site and here I am.
Thanks to all
Helen
Posted by: Helen at January 15, 2008 8:29 PM
i love this!deciding on the things to be installed is great.i have a scrpbook on the log home i want and the changes ive made in it and what the rooms will look like , its a lot of fun to do...cause along comes another floor plan thats just as perfect and you make the changes.watching you guys go thriugh those changes is a lot of fun cause you come up with the best answers.
love your show watch it all the time. i redid my kitchen,living room and bathroom in the last 6 months and im on to do my bedroom/
you give a lpt of good advice,but one thing a house always needs is a romantic bedroom no mater what!
Posted by: margaret shannon at January 15, 2008 10:30 PM
There's a product out there -- No Burn -- that I've heard when applied in the beginning of construction keeps the property safe from burning forever. Sounds like a product you should use! Love the floor plan!
Posted by: C. at January 15, 2008 11:11 PM
Congrats Ahmed for hosting Blog Cabin this year! I loved your creative touches and enthusiasm on the landscaping segment of 07 blog cabin. I've been so excited about this blog cabin ever since last season! I LOVE BLOG CABIN! It is my favorite show! I can not wait for the next choices. And I love being able to help create this beautiful home for whomever receives the blessing of winning it. Everyone keeps suggesting to move the outdoor fireplace from the master bedroom side of the house. I for one would love for it to stay put and be sunroomed or screened in in that masterbedroom retreat porch area! It would be a such great place for couples to relax after a long day & after the kids or company retires. I suggest taking the porch area where the indoor fireplace is and doubling the fireplace on the outside and then extending the porch out several more feet (making an actual room sized porch) and screening in this area for an outdoor living/dining area.. with this being right off the dining room it could make life alot easier with the food carrying/ preparing for the entertaining side of life.
Posted by: Carrie Miracle at January 15, 2008 11:12 PM
Can't wait for the new shows to start. I think Amy is the best! A lake house WOW! Ihave dreamed of a house by the water. With BLOG Cabin 2008 it almost seems posible.
Posted by: Dale at January 15, 2008 11:32 PM
Hello to everyone,
I just cast my vote for the Round Log type construction because of some research that I have done in relation to the R Factor for insulation. On the other hand, if you have the interior walls treated, about every 6 months you need to do a good cleaning between the logs because dust collecting in the joints. With the D Log type wall you will have a better area for hanging Art Work or what ever on the wall and better for taking care of.
The outdoor porch light should incorporate fans. This would provide some air circulation on those hot summer days when you have very little breeze.
In place of the Fireplace, I would like an old fashion POT BELLY TYPE STOVE. But, if the majority votes for WOOD Burning, the owners needs to stock pill a good hard wood for heat
Looking forward to the building of this home, because my wife and I are in the planning stage of selecting our LOG HOME and the property to buy in N. Ga.
Thanks,
Ted M
Ted M
Posted by: Ted McMahan at January 15, 2008 11:43 PM
I live in a log home with D-shaped logs, and they are great! The curved shape outside helps with water and snow run-off, and the flat part of the log inside makes it easy to hang cabinets, pictures and mirrors.
Do we have any input on what the logs are made of? My house is made of eastern white pine and the logs are so soft its currently being drilled to death by carpenter bees, and woodpeckers. If I built another log home, I'd definitely go with a stronger wood.
Posted by: robin at January 15, 2008 11:54 PM
Just curious why my posts are still being held. I posted in the 2007 cabin thread with no problem. I posted early this afternoon in the previous thread and my post never showed, and now I just posted again in this thread and its says my post is being held. I don't expect you to print this post, but I'd really like to be taken off moderated status.
Posted by: robin at January 15, 2008 11:57 PM
Thanks for listening! I do have a problem with the location of the washroom also. I feel that it needs to be located on the other side of the room in the bigger extra spaced room. You really need a bigger spot to sort and store the laundry and household cleaners/ brooms/mops/vacuums & etc. ! I currently have a closet washroom, located near a back entrance and we constantly have to walk over and around the sorted dirty laundry piles/baskets to get out the back door and it's aggravating sometimes embarrassing! I personally feel your dirty little secrets should be kept hidden until you can get back to it! Having disignated sorters would make the job so much easier as well! So please switch the washroom to the other side. A window in the washroom would be so nice! I suggest also that you could take the closet originally designed for the washer/dryer and convert it into a fishing equipment closet. With fishing rod hangers/holders and shelving/storage for tackleboxes and life jackets. We are a fishing family and this is something I would 100% love to have in our home!
Posted by: Carrie Miracle at January 15, 2008 11:57 PM
how about getting some rules going or even a entry page
Posted by: ADAM bailey at January 16, 2008 12:13 AM
A bathroom off the kitchen makes more sense then directly off the greatroom. And you have a space large enough for a bathroom directly across from the laundry closet. Too tacky in the great room. My opinion only. Thanks for listening
Posted by: Patti at January 16, 2008 1:19 AM
Yeah San Jacinto! The following months are going to be great! Can't wait to see the plans unfold! Voted for the round logs because they had a more traditional cabin feel. Love the hanging pendant! Which is better for the environment gas or wood logs? We all need to start thinking a little more green! Go Building teams keep up the good work! Thanks DIY for great shows!
Posted by: Kim and Mike at January 16, 2008 3:17 AM
A nice place like this is going to need a wonderful hot hub. What it doesn't need is some designer wanting to express themselves by designing a room in primary color bubbles or something along those lines. Please let's keep it neutral.
Posted by: Davey J at January 16, 2008 5:33 AM
Yes! Stairs to the lake & extending the back porch seem to be the best ideas. Also the laundry issue - what is that little room behind the kitchen? It has a window - the laundry could be moved into there. I wouldn't mind folding so much if I could look out at that georgous view!! I prefer the sconce front porch light since changing light bulbs for me in something very high would be more than problematic - this cabin should be environmental and user friendly! Upstairs bathrooms - one could have a tub w/shower & the other just a shower and life could be complete!! Will it have a walkout basement? (I hope, I hope!) Maybe a patio outside the basement - just someplace to put a hot tub. My hot tub is my physical therapy after a hard day - but then I don't have that view & that cabin (yet?)
Posted by: Therese at January 16, 2008 6:25 AM
Will Amy be back too?
Posted by: Therese at January 16, 2008 6:27 AM
Some more & repeat ideas:
Can have a wood burning fireplace in the outdoor fireplace (& hopefully a second outdoor fireplace that backs up to the interior one in the Great Room)
Can have both hanging & wall sconce porch lights -- vary depending on the location & the need. Example, it looks like the wrap-around porch is really a deck on the back -- no cover. Thus, wall sconces would have to be used there. But, can have hanging pendant light on the front porch. If the outdoor fireplace is moved from the bedroom side to the Kitchen side & made into an outdoor Kitchen, then some task lighting would be nice for that. If there is a hot tub near the Master Bath, then a nice hanging pendant over it (not too low, but low enough to add atmosphere) would be good.
Add more windows, particularly to the upper part of the great room for more outdoor light (& less need to use electric lights during the day). Skylights in some areas (same reason).
Screened in porches on both the Master BR & Kitchen side & extending these porches so they are even with the back deck. Steps off the back deck to the slope to the lake.
This is someone else's idea but like moving the washer and dryer so one can see outside when working there. Plus have a sink in the area. And, have some space to allow clothers to hang dry (energy efficient) when possible.
And, other people's idea: add a bathtub upstairs -- large clawfoot tub.
Make the Master Bath shower a spa shower with multiple showerheads with a built-in bench. Have the towel racks heated with the flow of the hot water (unless the location of the tankless water heater does not allow this to be done efficiently -- need to ensure we have tankless water heaters for energy efficiency).
Make a basement under the house. Looks like the slope will allow this while having the basement be a walkout in the back. Can access it from the stairs inside too. Can basically leave it roughed out -- use for storage now; but can be a future DIY project for the owner later (after they decide how they want to use it). But, put in electrical & some plumbing now, while it is easiest to do, with basic energy efficient lights.
Use fieldstone for the foundation & chimneys) or to face them.
Recycled metal roof -- with rainwater collection system to go to a cistern.
Radiant floor heat.
Local & recycled materials as much as possible.
Posted by: adele at January 16, 2008 7:40 AM
I agree that the back porch should be extended and the adding windows to the exterior of the upper great room for more outdoor light into 2nd level. Good exterior light streaming into the cabin would really add to the ambience of the "outdoors", as well as just "open it all up".
Posted by: Stacey McRae at January 16, 2008 7:43 AM
Having had a log home at one time, I am strongly in favor of the "D" style logs. The flat interior surface(s) accumulate less dust and it is easier to place pictures, etc..
Posted by: dhays at January 16, 2008 7:48 AM
If log burning fireplace is chosen over the gas logs, "make-up air" should be included in the fireplace to prevent "smoking" the house.
Also, having used geo-thermal heating, I think you should consider using this type of heating and air. It is more efficient and less expensive to operate.
Posted by: Jerry at January 16, 2008 7:52 AM
I have a question regarding the lighting selections for this project. Why can't they install both a hanging pendant and wall sconces?
Installing both would provide flexibility in the type of lighting that can be used for different situations. The pendant can be used for functions that require more lighting such as a gathering or dinner on the porch. The sconces would provide the option of a more private setting, say while one is in a hot tub on the deck in mid-summer sipping a nice glass of wine and watching a good movie on a 42" flat screen TV with surround sound.
Just a thought.
Regards,
Cesar L.
Posted by: Cesar Landestoy at January 16, 2008 7:53 AM
I just voted...picked the D LOGS--more THERMAL MASS than the square logs, and NO DUSTING required on the inside ROUND logs.
On the FIREPLACE choice--there are 2 in the plan--COULD WE DO ONE OF EACH--GAS AND WOOD? Make everyone happy!
How about that BASEMENT? With GARAGE DOOR at one end of the BASEMENT?
How about SCREENING IN the fireplace portion of the porch?
How about MOVING the outdoor fireplace portion of the porch to the OTHER END of the house?
Can we move the kitchen peninsula to the other side? OPEN it up to the great room.
Posted by: cabinscraps at January 16, 2008 8:14 AM
What is the square footage of the San Jacinto cabin?
Posted by: Barry Crist at January 16, 2008 8:34 AM
Thanks Blog Cabin for listening!! Where else can all of us help build "our" dream cabin from the comfort of our own homes!!! This is so much fun!! I really liked one bloggers idea of having both Gas and Wood burning. Gas inside and Wood outside... that sounds perfect!! Also really like the sconce so much better then the hanging pendant.. the sconce goes so much better with the scenery.
Posted by: Cindy from NJ at January 16, 2008 8:39 AM
I would flip the outside patio/fireplace to the other side of the house. This would give the master bedroom privacy and entertaining on the patio would have easier access to the kitchen.
Posted by: Pat in VA at January 16, 2008 8:58 AM
I do love the SanJacinto plan. I have found however, whenever we are at the lake that having a bathroom accessable from the deck is great for kids having to run in and out instead of tracking through the whole cabin. I really like the second foyer for use as a mud room. Muddy boots or wet things can be taken off and left right there. Good planning! I love this site.
Posted by: Evie Hannasch at January 16, 2008 9:02 AM
when designing the bathroom on the first floor please consider making the shower a walk in and make the doorways handicap accessible.
Log homes sure have come a long way from the 2 room log cabin I grew up with.
what fun to be part of the design process.
Posted by: Nancy Golden at January 16, 2008 9:16 AM
A screened in porch should be a must, with summer bugs, being so close to the lakefront. As far as the laundry, I was thinking, people usually get dress and undress in the bedroom, it would be less work to have a laundry room adjacent to the master bedroom, perhaps to the side of the master bathroom. This way the resident would not have to carry the clothes acoss to the other side of the house to wash and then back again to their bedroom. I agree with others that the fireplace should be placed in the living area, where it will be made more use of, not only for family and guest but I always think of Christmas time. There is something about a fireplace decorated and lit up during Christmas. What better place than the living area. Perhaps a smaller version fireplace on the master bedroom porch would be nice and cozy. Another idea that I had was electrical sockets on or under each window sill for candle lighting in the winter or other uses. The living area would benefit with a extra large bay window, with a bench seating. This is certainly going to be a beautiful home!
Posted by: Sarah at January 16, 2008 9:23 AM
this is a lake house the rear foyer needs to by a mud room with a shower in it. so when you come off the lake from fishing you woun't track it all through the house. some storage for fishing gear would be nice too.
Posted by: Cullen at January 16, 2008 10:09 AM
Will Amy be back? or is Ahmed the new Amy? She was very good & I hope she comes back. She shows that women can be builder too! And good at it!! If Ahmed is the new Amy - good luck filling those shoes! It'll be tight, man! Anyway - I love the floor plan and voted for the D logs, Sconce & real fireplace. I do think that if the real wood burning & gas fireplace can be combined I think its a good idea. I would make a few changes on the floor plan:
1. In the master bath, move the french doors (love 'em) to the bathroom & put pcket doors to each closet so you don't have to go into the bathroom to get your clothes.
2. Either move the laundry into that room next to the rear foyer or make that room the computer site but keep it all open - don't wall of the computer/laundry room or have a pocket door there.
3. Screen off the porch next to the dining room for outdoor dining w/o bugs
Posted by: Therese at January 16, 2008 10:25 AM
I'm glad the changes have been noted (!) They were all good ones. For this blog-cabin, how about self-sufficiency as in generator, but really, solar and wind (I know, too much to ask for - but 12/24 volt DC solar battery lighting is possible and fairly cheap, too, especially with LED's...and it is a cabin). So anyway - there's my suggestion - solar DC LED lighting and a generator...and a wind turbine from the new plant in KY :-) - Jim Roberts
Posted by: Jim Roberts at January 16, 2008 10:44 AM
Fireplace choice is for indoor? Right? Since there are two - I would want GAS (also for stove top) for the Family Room but WOOD for the outdoor unit. Floorplan suggestion: Flip the outdoor fireplace and porch to the Kitchen/Dining side where it can be more useful for outdoor cooking and dining (space for outdoor table and chairs and LP Grill or Smoker). This also allows the side entry to be used for stocking firewood and dining/entertaining supplies.
Posted by: Denise Stearns at January 16, 2008 10:56 AM
I love the idea of screening in part of the porch. Being in Tennessee, if you want to spend time outside at all during the summer, you would need screening if you don't want to be eaten by mosquitos.
Also, having a basement would be very practical. The idea of having a basement, even if unfinished, is great not only for inclimate weather (which is a common occurance in the South during the Spring) but also for storing canoes/kayaks etc. for the lake.
Posted by: Amanda at January 16, 2008 11:07 AM
I have voted for ease of use. If small children or elderly relatives visit, a single story makes more sense, so does the gas log fire,less polution and who wants to chop wood on vacation? Finally for now anyway a sconce for the porch lighting is easier to keep clean and also will be more cozy than an overhead bright chandelier. I will keep looking and deciding my choices.
Posted by: Patricia Denney at January 16, 2008 11:15 AM
I think the modification ideas are great! I really love windows, I have seen so many homes in lovely rural areas that have teeny tiny windows and I think to myself what is up with that? You are missing some of the most spectacular views!!! So the more windows the better!!! A cheery wash room would be nice, although I really think it just needs to be roomy and functional. The porch does need to be extended it looks lopsided the way it is and hinders the flow of energy of the home. But it is going to be beautiful!!!
Posted by: Brenda at January 16, 2008 12:21 PM
DIY you have outdone yourself this time! As they say location, location, location. What a beautiful setting for the 2008 Blog Cabin! And I love the San Jacinto plan. I did vote for the square logs. Just thought it would bring out the beautiful features of the San Jacinto plan. I agree with the other comments regarding both pendant and sconce lighting. And I voted for the gas fireplace because it is cleaner.
Posted by: Beverly at January 16, 2008 12:50 PM
I voted for the gas log fireplace. I had a wood burning fireplace and currently have a gas log fireplace. I have to admit I prefer the gas log for a couple of reasons -- 1. it burns cleaner; 2. since it requires no real wood logs, less likelihood of possible termites in the future; 3. the best reason is when you want it off, you just flip a switch and it is off!
Posted by: meulitt at January 16, 2008 1:03 PM
The floorplan San Jacinto is Great! But I would like to change the outside deck with the fireplace and put it on the same side as the kitchen (the popular place to gather) then you could screen it for outdoor dining. And like many other bloggers I think the powder room needs to be off the kitchen close to the outside for necessity (no tracking mud or dripping bodys)and put the library or computer room next to the great room and master. One more thought would be to add those pocket type windows(like they use in the warmer climates to open the house to the out of doors) that slide along the wall in the kitchen, then when you are using the patio those less fortunate left in the kitchen will feel like they are still included and it will also make passing items back and forth much easier.
Posted by: Shari Williams at January 16, 2008 1:14 PM
No bath for the upstairs, money can be spent better elsewhere.
Washer / dryer stays put. You are not there long enough and the opposite room can be used for ironing, folding, etc that takes longer.
I agree with extending the back porch just in front of the great room, though. And instead of windows on either side of the fireplace, put in french doors (eliminate the one in the dining room.) That way the great room is extended into the outside. That's where I would screen in also.
I love real wood burning in the fireplace, but the advantages to gas for the inside fireplace far out weigh the the wood burning.
I agree to moving the outside fireplace to the other side. Although it would be really cool to have the great room fireplace accessible from both inside and outside (do they make such a thing) Then I would go for burning wood. Then you can just put a super gas grill outside the kitchen.
Wow, this is fun!
Posted by: Kathy at January 16, 2008 1:36 PM
San Jacinto will be a lovely cabin...though I'd have preferred a single level.
I'll be on here periodically---pushing for as much universal design as possible. Steps on the front side are great..but will there be a ramp of some nature? (Or, better yet, zero grade entrance on one side?)
I like gas logs...have them in my home...but agree that woodburning fireplaces seem more...vacation like. Hadn't thought about the lightbulb changing aspect of a hanging fixture...I may vote for sconces next time.
I like the Dlogs flat side...the weather shedding abilities of round logs...but one can still easily hang artwork!
Posted by: Melanie See at January 16, 2008 1:41 PM
Hello -
Please post more detailed info like the plat map, the location of Lot 5 within the overall community, the acreage of the lot, the siting of the house within the lot.
I would like to suggest to use the trees that are cut down to make room for the cabin in the construction of the cabin or as furniture in the cabin.
I second the suggestion for a garage or carport.
Posted by: Scott at January 16, 2008 2:22 PM
Now that the floor plan has been decided, it would be helpful to have a split frame showing the floor plan when voting on options. It would help me anyway. Anyone else?
Posted by: Cathy P at January 16, 2008 2:29 PM
As far as the fireplace selection. Can we have it both ways? Gas for inside because it is a much cleaner source and outside, go for our traditional log burning fireplace on the deck off the Master Suite.
Posted by: Alan E at January 16, 2008 2:58 PM
Now that a 2 story floorplan has been selected would it be possible to modify the staircase to facilitate addition of something like the Acorn Stairlift to make it possible for mobility challanged folks to use the second floor? The approximate cost of adding the stairlift after the cabin is built would be under $3700 for a straight staircase. Having a landing adds measurably to the cost, especially when it is 2-3 steps then turn. In addition, there are models available that work outside if the stairs are constructed with that option in mind. I do not work for Acorn, but my wife does have the need for the lift.
Posted by: Frank at January 16, 2008 3:02 PM
This has been a lot of fun, again. So far, all three of my choices are winning! It took me a couple of try's to find this section of the voting, but I finally did and I love the D Logs the best. The hanging porch light looks so much more upscale than the sconce. The log burning fireplace will bring the right rustic touch to the home. I like this year's voting better than how we voted last year; all of the features voted on all at once. This is nice, seeing the features a little at a time, sort of building as we go along. ~Betty~
Posted by: Betty Wilcox at January 16, 2008 3:06 PM
I love it, I love it, I love it. I voted for the San Jacinto and am happy it got the majority vote. I agree with some of the other bloggers, that the deck with the fireplace should be on the same side of the cabin as the kitchen (for convenience)and also the powder room for the same reason. I prefer wood burning fireplaces over gas fireplaces any time (I don't mind chopping wood), but an outside gas fireplace on the deck would be alright, maybe with a built-in barbecue on the side? Someone mentioned an overhead fan/light instead of a hanging lamp or sconce. I think that is a great ideal for the back. Helps keep air flowing and maybe discourages mosquitoes? I voted for the sconce for the front, but it seems the hanging lamp is the choice of the people. I was wondering where the sunset would be in relation to where the cabin will be built. The view of the lake from the back of the cabin is beautiful, but it would be even more "awesome" if the sun goes down at the back. No matter.... I would love it anyway.
Posted by: Bo at January 16, 2008 3:08 PM
I noticed that some folks like the idea of moving the washer and dryer across the hall. I see that more of a "pantry/storage and a place for my hobby desk" type area. Kind of a little indoor hideaway.
Posted by: Alan E at January 16, 2008 3:17 PM
I also voted for the round logs, but was out voted. I also voted for the gas logs, because with a blower it would be so warm & easer than having to store wood. But I am sure we will all like it just the way Ya'll decide to build it. Look forward to seeing the finish product. Thank, LaVerne, in Virginia
Posted by: LaVerne Carter at January 16, 2008 3:35 PM
I Have voted for the 8" round logs, why, because the 8" round logs lends itself toward the more traditional log cabin feel and that's what this is about, correct? I will be the first to admit that I don't know much about which log system.
I also voted for the sconce lighting, again in the name of "tradition."
I see that the wood burning fireplace is taking the lead and rightfully so...(tradition, right), not to mention it's warming benefits as opposed to a gas log fireplace. But nowadays and a wood burner can cause severe breathing problems for many! Just hoping this last aspect will be taken into consideration.
Posted by: Tracy G. Smith at January 16, 2008 4:05 PM
I love the cabin selection. The only thing I could add that is different would be to put windows in the peaks on each side of the Great Room fireplace. (above the sliding doors) This would allow any one in the loft to also have lake views out across the Great room.
Posted by: Kathy D at January 16, 2008 5:01 PM
We voted for the D-Logs. You get the log house look from the outside and the smooth walls to work with on the inside.
As for the outside lighting we think both could work well together.
The house should be gas all the way!!!In todays world of WORK,WORK,WORK who has time to go out, cut down trees,cut,split and stack wood? Don't forget to carry wood inside and take ashes out! And then there is the times when you get smoke all in the house. Maybe some people have extra money to buy 4 or 5 cord of wood a winter and have it brought in and stacked.
Yes it would be nice to move the Great Room fireplace to the wall next to the Dining room. A 2 way fireplace for the Great Room and the outside deck would be nice for cooking out or to stay warm while on the swing.
Now your Great Room will truly be a GREAT ROOM with a wide open view of the lake as you enter the house.
DIY thanks for being there!
Glenn/Stephanie
Las Vegas
Posted by: Glenn at January 16, 2008 6:11 PM
I have once again been thinking about the floor plans. I really think that there is more of a need for a half bath on the kitchen side of the house instead of in the living room/front foyer. This would be a little more private. But you could take the original washroom closet and make it into a 1/2 bath. Yes, I still want you to move the washroom to the bigger room across the hall. Having a window & being able to see out and having easier storage of dirty clothes and cleaning supplies would make life alot easier and doing those necessary chores alot less dreadful. My reasoning for the 1/2 bath idea is that this would be less stress of cleaning water & dirt off the floor constantly and less dirtying of the main living space. Most people would want the front foyer and living room to stay clean most the time, right: for company! You are living on the lake and most of the people visiting will be getting wet or dirty due to swimming or fishing and water sports if permitted! And this 1/2 bath gives everybody a place for quick in and out usage of the bathroom or changing into swim clothes and out of wet clothes. Making life easier with less dirtying of the house. You could also use the back foyer as a fishing equipment display area and design it for easy grab and use; just mount the poles on the wall with fishing rod holders and have a shelving unit or bench for storage of tackle boxes , life jackets and beach towels storage, sunscreen,first aid & etc... Then you could use the original 1/2 bath in living room for an office/craft nook or storage room. I do have a question about the stairs entrance for upstairs: is the entrance to the stairs starting up in the foyer or in front of the kitchen? I get the feeling it starts in the foyer for upstairs and would start in front of the kitchen for a basement entrance, if there is a basement? You could put an awesome game room downstairs: with pool table and kitchenette and a big tv and another full bath for extra guest!
Posted by: Carrie MIracle at January 16, 2008 7:23 PM
If I won this lake front house, I could care less about an ironing and folding station. Just make sure there is a place for my canoe on that lake. I do agree with screening the porch. Nothing better than having the doors open at night listening to the crickets without getting bit by insects.
Posted by: KC at January 16, 2008 7:40 PM
Great cabin! I love the floor plan just as it is and happy to see you stayed in Tennessee close to the mountains. I will enjoy sitting with my husband outside the master bedroom drinking coffee in the morning and looking at the view.
I like the D logs the best. I know some of you are saying that the round logs are more traditional but I've been in old cabins in Cades Cove that have square logs. Besides, the flat surface on the inside of the cabin will make it easier to decorate and keep clean. I'm not voting for the square logs because I like the look of the round logs on the outside.
I would like a gas fireplace for the cleanliness of it and the ease of starting the fire. The outside fireplace will be wood so both types can be enjoyed. Looking forward to voting on the rest of the plan.
Posted by: Lisa at January 16, 2008 8:19 PM
I like the idea of moving the washer and dryer to the room across the hall and adding a sink so that it will be more of a laudry room. The space the washer and dryer is currently in could be used as a pantry for the kitchen, unless the floor plan already includes a pantry area.
Regarding the fireplace, I know that wood buring is nice, but I voted for gas logs because I like the convenience of not having to supply, store and carry wood.
Posted by: mlr08 at January 16, 2008 8:27 PM
We own a log home, we have the 8inch logs. I love my home, but the d-log would be easier to clean, and for hanging pic and art work on the walls. As for more windows up stairs, you loose alot of heat and air if there are several windows. the hanging lamps are beautiful, but lots of winds here,(I live 15 min. from building site)the sconces would be more practical. We had a wood burning stove at first, but very messy and lots of work, we now have an old timey looking ventless gas burning stove,and love it.It would be nice if there was a front porch at the entrance. If someone comes to visit it looks like if your on the side porch, you would have to come all the way thru the house to let them in.Just wondering. We enjoy your show, keep up the good work.
Posted by: Karen at January 16, 2008 8:40 PM
I know this won't be popular, but I would love to see a 4th bedroom upstairs (instead of open to below with loft) with a bonus area across from it, with great big windows looking out and down to the water! I hate not utilizing every bit of space. If not, then a wall of floor to ceiling windows in the great room, so there is a view from anywhere you stand in the house.
Posted by: Michael Ann at January 16, 2008 8:47 PM
I wish the floor plan winner had been a single story, but let's make the most of this one.
There needs to be a garage or maybe someone can let us know if one can be added later if the new owner (ME!!!) wants one.
No tub upstairs. Shower only should be fine.
Screen in the porch. No bugs in my hot tub!!
Definitely do a basement, even if it's unfinished. I'll finish it later.
Posted by: Diggs at January 16, 2008 9:02 PM
Hi everyone.
WOW!!!What a great house this is going to turn out to be!
We followed the last Blog Cabin religiously.
The twins made it a great enjoyment to watch.
Our comments on the constuction would be;
We love the idea of adding windows to the upstairs "common" area...maybe a half arch on each side of the fireplace. Would really add to the view of the lake.
Another stairway off the back porch would be great so you don't have to run all the way around (or jump over the railing) to get off the porch.
As far as the fireplace goes...the wood burning seems to be getting the majority of the votes...which we agree with. However, a thought to consider, is that a gas burning fireplace is cleaner, and could be used as a wood burner. In our present home, we had a gas burner installed with "ceramic" logs. We removed the "ceramic" logs, put an iron grate in, and we use the gas burner to start natural wood, then we shut off the gas once the wood is burning. By putting in the gas fireplace (if the chimney is the same for both), it would give the owner the option of making the decision of how to use the fireplace. Keep the "fake" logs in, or take them out, put in a log grate, and burn wood.
LOGS, LOGS, LOGS...A big factor in building a Log Home. The winner here seems to be the "D" Style. However, tradition would steer toward the round...right? I understand the reasoning behind the "D" style, like decorating, hanging pictures, etc. But wouldn't that great room look awesome with full round logs going all the way up to the loft? I certainly don't know much about log homes, but could the interior be changed later, in certain rooms by the future owner to fit their own preferences? Maybe drywall added to certain rooms, after the house has settled. Or, could the consruction include both types of logs? Maybe round on the first floor to get the full log effect in the great room, and "D" style on the second floor to give you more decorating choices in the bedrooms.
Just some thoughts. Everyone here seems to have such great ideas...It is so much fun to read all the great comments.
Good luck building thid great home!
Posted by: Mark at January 16, 2008 9:13 PM
The fireplaces should be wood burning, this makes for a great feel in the colder nights and the gas fire would be okay if the other applances were gas burning but if not wood fire is the best. I also think the lighting should be sconces to help if the wind get blowing hard.
Posted by: Troy at January 16, 2008 10:03 PM
Leave the washer and dryer where they are. We are looking at the cabin as a residence for at least 6 months of the year and would like to have the little room as a utility/storage room.
Posted by: Ellen at January 16, 2008 10:21 PM
Ahmed and Amy did a great job last time. I did not get in on the blogging last cabin. This time I really want to put my two cents in, and vote. I am like the person that posted I do not want so much of the designers taste as last time, I hated the painted rug on the hard wood floors. I like more nuteral colors too because whoever wins will want to put their own touches and personality. I like the folding area in laundry and maybe a half bath. I like a screened porch to guard from mosquitos. I like porch swings. I like bath shower combo upstairs or just a shower.Down stairs I was thinking of those new type tubs where you can walk in they have a door that opens and a seat to sit on and the jacuzzi jets come up from the bottom, plus safety hand rails. I love a walkin shower lots of tile seperate from the bath,a walkin cothes closet and dressing room. Toilet in its own cubby hole for privacy with space for reading material toilet paper storage and a telephone, and of course a good fan lol! I like the gas fireplace but what if we had a disaster or forest fire? at least with natural wood you do not worry about blowing up! or the gas bill, and you can stay warm and cook in an emergencywith a wood burning we need another source of heat such as solar or radiater..because heated floors are so nice and water is recycled electric boiler could be in the laundry room the new ones are very copact the new hot water heaters types are neat too! I like the hanging light outside but it will attract bats and also hard to change the light bulb, I have one. I am for sky lights! pocket windows and doors are nice.... but my favorite, 'are french doors! I like Ahmeds taste on the landscaping. I would like to see the foundation of the house at least two feet off the ground or more for plumbing access, and for heated floors,and also in case of flooding. Maybe in a safe part of the lot away from water area a storm/wine cellar for wine and also home canned products a hideabed just in case you have a tornado. I like tile floors in kitchen and laundry and foyer. grannit countertops in kitchen. I like the idea of looking up at the stars from my bed at night with a retractable cover to keep sky light clean in winter. I like window seats and a reading room. porch swings and a herb garden window over the sink if practical insulation wise. I like a solar generater because lights go out alot in storms. All green would be okay with me with a rain barrel storage news paper insulation, solar pannels, all the latest green tech. Hey I can deal! I don't care, as long as its better for the enviroment I am all for it, I have even heard of a compost toilet. Well I am signing off this has turned into a huge blog should last the rest of the show,lol. Love many of the ideas, but boat dock is a must!!!! for fishing swimming and canoeing. also would love some sand trucked in for a beach, well as long as were dreaming why not? but if all it was in reality just a rustic cabin that would be enough of a dream for me. got a little carried AWAY WITH MY DREAMING! LOL, JUST LIVIN THE LIFE. Good luck! Marilyn
Posted by: marilyn at January 16, 2008 10:23 PM
The sconce on the porch would be a better choice because the winds that blow thru Tn. can be really strong. The pendant light will have a short life.
I voted for the D logs because it will be easier to decorate and finish.
Posted by: Richard H. at January 16, 2008 11:05 PM
Hi,
I agree with swaping the present spot of the laundry area to the room across the hall. The laundry area now doesn't allow for storage for detergents,bleachs and stuff like that. There's no place to fold or hang clothes and when the dryer door is open you're blocking the hall. The room across the hall could have shelves for storage, a counter for folding clothes, strage space for brooms, & mops. A closet with a drop down ironing board would be nice to. If space for a freezer could be found all the better.
I woudl like to see the door for the master bedroom changed to a french or double door of some sort. If possible move the vanity in the master bath to allow and exit from it to the porch would be nice also.
Windows on the either side of the fireplace on the second floor would allow more light in the loft area and the main living room too.
Lastly a powder room of some kind in the loft are would make the loft more useable with out haveing to use one of the upstairs bedroom's bathroom.
I voted for the the square logs. I feel that they give the house a cleaner look while still being logs and unusual.
Posted by: Cathy McConnell at January 16, 2008 11:32 PM
Hi guys!
Well since we have the San Jacinto as our artist pallet lets get to work.
I have to say I voted for the gas fireplace. We have had a wood stove when we lived in NY and it was great to have when we had no electric. But it is dirty to clean just like a regular fireplace is. Our fireplace and chimney here has to get checked an cleaned on a regular basis and when the electric goes out, especially for a few days, like we have had happen, it creates drafts. Those drafts can be aggravated by that second floor as well. No matter how well you are insulated when that flue is open and burning wood, it pulls air through your house. Have you ever walked upstairs with the fireplace going? Yes, gas logs would be much better. No fuss, no muss! A nice big arched window over the gas fireplace would give that loft a great view as well.
I agree with putting the washer and dryer in what looks like a utility room. Who stands at the washer and enjoys the view? Kitchen cabinets would look better where the W/D stands in the floor plan as shown. Oh yeah! Peninsula is so out of date. Open traffic flow is a lot better. You can still have eating space at the island.
Since the loft may be used as extra sleeping, I agree that it needs bathroom access. Imagine having guests needing a bathroom in the middle of the night. Did someone mention windows for this space? Looks to me there are windows (double) in the plan, but how about some kind of privacy screening for the guests? Something retractable would be nice.
Looks like we will have lots of wasted space in this house to work with too.
It would also be nice if that porch to the main foyer was all the way across that part of the house. The lakeside stairs are a must as well. Can we have a step down deck there or maybe wide stairs that go across the whole front. If the land is sloping to the lake, it would be nice to have some other outdoor living area. A step or two off the porch to a deck would or a patio would really be nice. Depends on the slope of the land.
Those great room walls that are accessible to the porch need either doors like those on either side of the fireplace or floor to ceiling windows.
Well we certainly have enough to think about here.
So lets go.
Posted by: Lynn in NC at January 17, 2008 12:04 AM
I think it is a must that part of the porch be screened. Think how much kids, grandchildren would have fun sleeping in a screened porch. One of the bathrooms upstairs needs to be opened to the loft. The loft would make a great bunk room for kids, but need access to a bathroom. (A gas fireplace puts out lots of heat. We have converted our fireplace to gas logs, no one wanted to go outside in the winter for wood, and the gas logs put out the heat.
Posted by: Sharon Cobb at January 17, 2008 12:16 AM
Helloooo DIY!
I was surprised to see that changes are being considered in the design. Although, this cabin will be spectacular, I would like to suggest a few things.
I would move the washer/dryer area to the rear foyer (mud room), making the current location of the washer/dryer into a small pantry with maybe a pocket door or no door at all. The small area across from the washer/dryer, I would make into a small home/office, again, adding a pocket door.
For the kitchen, I would remove the extra built in seating area allowing the dining area to be a tad larger...more open. I would like to see french doors leading onto all porch areas...lotsa glass for the awesome view. I think the powder room is perfect..away from people, although, maybe adding a pocket door there as well.
I like large open floor plans and wall long windows allowing the sunlight into all areas of the house.
As for the second floor, for each bedroom, removing one side of the storage area and opening up the bathrooms for a tub enclosure, instead of a stand alone shower. I would use pocket doors to allow easier access and room for the closets.
The loft area is very nice; would be a great sitting area with maybe a possibility of a small outdoor balcony where the window is, in order to expand the sitting area to the outdoors.
Overall, this cabin will be a terrific place to raise a family...very inviting with a small hint of sophistication.
Very nicely done!
Posted by: UnspokenMiztie at January 17, 2008 12:34 AM
Thank you, DYI, for the invitation to participate in designing the 2008 Blog Cabin. Many terrific ideas have already been suggested.
Is it possible to ensure a secondary egress from the second story? Having access to both the stairs and another exit might make the difference between life and death in case of a fire.
Additionally, a finished, walkout basement would add to the value of this fine house.
Lastly, given the active insect life in the region, screening the master bedroom porch would encourage greater useage.
Thank you again for inviting us to join you in the creation of Blog Cabin 2008!
Posted by: Lesley at January 17, 2008 12:45 AM
Voted for the San Jacinto...great looking house.
Was wondering why you didnt put 3 of those arch shaped windows in front to balance things out? Or why didnt you put them over the smaller windows to give more light to those rooms.
Definitely need the utility room. I like everyones ideas of moving the laundry room across the hall, add a window, sink and folding tables with closets or cabiets for storage.
Definitely need skylights in the loft.
I also liked the idea of putting the large porch area with the fireplace over by the kitchen/dining room area for ease in entertaining and privacy for the master BR. Then extend that patio to be even with the back. And back stairs, definitely!!
a hanging light fixture truly fits this entry better but i do llike the idea of both. maybe hanging over the door and sconses along the porch for lighting.
If we are going to think green...solar power/heating, wind power, hot water on demand pumps, rainwater collecting systems,
The Bloggers idea to move the fireplace is a great also.
Wood vs. gas fireplace?? I don't know which is more enviromentally friendly but I think that is the factor to take into consideration here.
I also don't understand why all the small closets in the upstairs bedrooms. Couldn't you rotate the bathrooms, slide them to the side walls annd corners, putting the sink/toilet on the side wall as opposed to the front? That might create room for a tub someone mentioned and/or 1 larger walk in closet. Also a longer wall for furniture arranging and larger room space.
Will there be a basement, daylight preferred, and room to add a garage later?
Posted by: Goddess at January 17, 2008 3:42 AM
ROBIN, keep posting, maybe you'll get out of the penalty box.
Ahmed, don't mess this up; put a hot tub in and don't let some designer strong arm you into putting some garbage that looks horrible in the house all in the name "artistic expression".
Posted by: Davey J at January 17, 2008 3:42 AM
Yah I love the San Jacinto model too, I want to win this one
Posted by: Wayne Smith at January 17, 2008 7:12 AM
Even though the San Jacinto received the most votes, a single level design would be much more practical from my point of view (well at least the master bedroom is on the main floor, ha ha for those of us that don't enjoy going up and down stairs) .
The wood burning fireplace is a must, and the design should include a stacked rock finish, not brick or the style used in the 2007 home.
The D-log style would be the overall best choice. This gives the look of the traditonal log home and yet gives the owner a cleaner look on the inside and makes decorating much easier.
Posted by: David Lawson at January 17, 2008 7:46 AM
I agree about adding stairs on the lakeside...a must. The room across from the laundry is were I would put a pantry & storage area... This is a vacation or weekend home so laundry isn't but a quick chore... I am not ironing while on vacation.. Love the idea of putting windows on the lakeside upper area to let the light in & a view from the loft.. why not change the Dinning room door to the lake to windows and one of the Great Room windows to a door the one on the master bedroom side.... also the master bedroom windows moved together in the center to balance the Dinning room windows.. a more balanced look...
and again I would love the door to the bathroom moved over to be able to put the bed on that wall to look out towards the lake... still voting for 1 tub upstairs and the large side patio moved to the kitchen side but to keep a smaller one on the master side... on the items voted on.. gas fireplace inside(easier & cleaner..alergies) and wood outside for cooking on.. combination of lights and fans depending on the area... and the D-logs.. I love my photos & paintings on the wall and don't want to have to spend all my time cleaning the inside walls... why have a lake home if I can't enjoy the lake & porches..do not want ot be always cleaning..
Posted by: Barbara Turner at January 17, 2008 8:05 AM
I agree about the sconce light; I would not like to have to get our the ladder to change a lightbulb. I have family members who build a a log house almost 20 years ago and they used the d-style logs. They have never been sorry from an interior decorating point of view as it has given them more flexibility.
I also voted for the wood burning fireplace. I recently converted to gas at home and miss the great ambiance of wood.
Posted by: tingoat at January 17, 2008 8:19 AM
Great plan! I love the basic plan of this cabin. It is perfect for having guests and entertaining. Exactly what you'd want out of a cabin and all have their own "retreat".
I suggest that more windows be incorporated in the great room to take advantage of the light and views. I would do that by installing more patio doors out to the decks. I was thinking that the one should replace the window in the master facing the lake and remove the side door and keep that wall window and doorless. Also, you could put a patio door on each of the opposing walls in the great room. The lot is gently sloped and lends itself perfectly to a walkout basement that could have several windows looking out to the lake. I agree with the other posts about the laundry area. It should be moved across the hall to that room that could be a multi-functional space for storage/laundry/mudroom. The current laundry closet could be a pantry or coat/gear storage. I think the traffic flow of the kitchen would be better if the peninsula was on the other side making it a "U-shaped" kitchen which would make for a better dishwasher location as well. Lastly, I agree with the other posts on moving the outdoor fireplace to the other side of the house to provide privacy for the master suite. My guests usually always stay up later than me!! That would give the cabin a public side for all to enjoy and give a private retreat to others as desired....these all are the perfect ingredients for a great vacation home.
Posted by: Patti at January 17, 2008 8:26 AM
Does the cabin really need one of those giant tubs that get used once or twice. I am pulling mine out and putting in a personal sauna.
Posted by: Pam Husen at January 17, 2008 8:38 AM
A garage is important - is there space for one? I like the idea of river rock for all the fireplaces - inside and out. Definately stairs on the lake side - even 2 sets, 1 on either side. The master bath is in the front of the house, so I don't vote for extending that porch - but I do love that tub! I like keeping the laundry right where it is but take out the pocket door just opposite it & open up that space. Keep the folding doors right in front of the laundry but open up the rest of it. That would be a great computer place - for planning family reunions and holiday dinners! Plus since my husband & I both cook & keyboard it would be very convenient! Great place to pay the bills & plan vacations. I would also keep the outside fireplace right where its at by the master bedroom - I never want to loose that romance! And what a great place to cuddle up even on the wet or chilly days/nights. Its a miracle that my husband & I found each other & a miracle that we survived long enough to meet! Kayaking on that lake & cuddling up by the fire - perfect!!
Posted by: Therese at January 17, 2008 9:02 AM
Dear Blog Cabin:
Perhaps, in San Jacinto, you could have the loft to become a grand office space/library combined with with an upstairs reading area, which over-looks that beautiful lake. Thus, giving the home a real and true purpose for the upstairs, besides just for being guest rooms, which may or may not be used often enough throught the four seasons: In this day and age many people often need to have an office for they work from home.
Thank you for listening.
Posted by: Norman at January 17, 2008 9:43 AM
I really like the design of the San Jacinto. The only thing that I would change is the location of the outdoor fireplace to the other side of the house where it would be closer to family space. It would be romantic by the master bedroom, but more used - at least with my family - by the dining room and kitchen. Also, even if the vote wins for gas log, the outside on should be woodburning. Thank you for doing this... it's really fun to dream!
Posted by: Mary at January 17, 2008 9:55 AM
Round logs are over used, at least in my area. I live in the North GA. mountains and get tired of the round log look. I vote square.
Wood burners are nice but messy and time consuming. For the modern busy man, I vote gas.
The pendant lite is very classic, ever on a cabin in the woods. Nice touch.
Jack
Posted by: Jack Schlachter at January 17, 2008 10:13 AM
I really liked the foor plan of the one floor as I am a senior and someday stairs will be a problem. I think that when you are building these homes you should take in consideration of all types of people. I know probably the majority of the people voting are young people, but us seniors would like a new home for retirement too. I love the idea of the mud room though. With having lots grandchildren and others coming in and out a mud room is a must. I also like the idea of a big kitchen, as the one I have is very small. I like both kinds of fireplaces. I think the idea of having both types in the house is a good one. I also like the idea of a screened porch....
Posted by: Barb at January 17, 2008 10:22 AM
I really like the idea of the round logs. I can only say that I like them just for their looks, because I don't have a clue what other purpose they serve. I guess if there's no difference in purpose, then the D logs would be a good choice, too.
The wood burning fireplace is my favorite. I've never had a fireplace and I don't know the difference between the two, but I just still feel more partial to the more natural wood burning. I also chose the hanging pendant light on the porch. I love the way they can make any area look a little more elegant.
Posted by: Amber at January 17, 2008 11:23 AM
I really like how the 6x12 logs set, it looks like it will be more energy friendly, heating and air. - Cheryl
Posted by: Cheryl at January 17, 2008 11:37 AM
I voted for the 8" logs. We own a Barna log home and it is the 6 1/2" logs. They have less insulation value (lower R factor). Also, unless Barna has changed their requirements the 6 1/2" log home models are put together using lag screws only, not the larger bolts.
Posted by: Matt at January 17, 2008 12:31 PM
Love the Lake site. It is beautiful.
Extending the back porch could be a good idea but there is an extended porch area with a fire place so this might be overkill. If I were building this home I would flip the extended porch to the kitchen side of the home. People could enjoy the outdoor fireplace witout disturbing the master bedroom and it would be close to the kitchen when moving food/beverages. I am thinking of when the children or guests are visiting.
A second set or even a third set of stairs would be great to access the lake side.
Moving the washer/dryer into that room across the hall would be good, adding a sink and open shower area in that room would be good for rinsing off people/dogs after being in the lake. There should be a place to hang wet clothes/towels in this area. I would make the area where the washer/dryer is now a closet/storage space that extends into that rear foyer along that wall. Plus have a sit down area to remove shoes.
Adding more windows to the upper great room to bring in more light is always a geat idea.
A bathtub upstairs would be a good idea. Could remove one of those closets beside the bathroom. I am thinking of those toddler grandchildren or adult guests wanting to soak a bit after a day on the lake.
Posted by: Massie at January 17, 2008 12:58 PM
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Posted by: Watson Hawkins at January 17, 2008 1:33 PM
Before I put in my "two cents" I just want to say how much fun this is and I always learn so much. So, the process is as much fun as the idea of ever winning such a prize.
As others have mentioned, Carrie and Patti - to name a few, I see the need for a small toilet and sink bath room, perhaps where the washer/dryer are now. Using the larger room for Laundry/pantry. Also when things get muddy/dirty the whole foyer area really comes in handy for keeping the untidy things out of the rest of the house. A utility sink in the laundry room would be great for unseen mishaps. Even if that whole(foyer/laundry/toilet) area had to be reconfigured I think there is room to make changes.
Well, things are so good as they are now that this can only get better!
Posted by: Joybird at January 17, 2008 1:37 PM
After some serious contemplation--I've decided to vote for gas logs (SO much easier) and the sconces will handle mountain winds better. (As someone else mentioned.)
I like the idea of including a chair lift!
Posted by: Melanie See at January 17, 2008 1:50 PM
Watson, thanks for the explanation of posting speed etc., I'm sure most people will appreciate the reasons. However, is it possible to make the site more user-friendly? Maybe better labeling of the various blogs would help so that we would know which is the current blog on the log types and which was the earlier blog on the floor plan and so forth. People could then more easily read and post to a specific topic rather than guessing or getting frustrated wondering whether their comments will be relevant or not by the time they are posted.
Having said all that it's really interesting reading the varied comments. For my 10c worth I would love to see some broad steps from the lakeside of the cabin to the yard and removal of as much of the lakeside porch rail as possible. Having lived in a similar cabin at one point in my life one of the most frustrating things was to have a thick porch rail in the middle of my line of sight towards the lake. We removed it and had two sets of handrails from the yard to the porch/deck and a ramp for disabled access and carrying heavy furniture in and out. Suddenly there seemed to be so much more space and the lake and house became one rather than being clearly delineated from each other.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 17, 2008 1:59 PM
Dear Site Manager at DIYnetwork.com : re
I have noted that my post(s) keep appearing under other people's names and time frames? Either one just below or one just above my orginal post. Is their something I can do to make sure my post show up under my name?
I am consurned, because if DIY got a post from someone else, (one above or below my name)whom did say something which was inappropriate: Nevertheless, you may come to believe, it was I who said such a thing. Which I would never do on this or any other blog. I believe you have one of the best interactive blogs on all the net, ever.
Thank you for listening.
Respectfully,
Norman
Posted by: Norman at January 17, 2008 2:06 PM
Always love DIY/HGTV homes - but would love to see something done that the average homeowner will be able to keep/afford after winning. These wonderful ideas are soooooo extravagant that the usual pricing makes it impossible to keep. I believe of the 11 HGTV homes, only one was retained by winner. I know if I won this home, I would most likely have to sell because I am on a fixed income. The taxes in the area would be the deciding factor. I love the home and all the ideas about moving laundry, porches, oudoor fireplace - concur with them all. Tennessee is also a great place.
Posted by: Roxy Jones at January 17, 2008 2:19 PM
Instant blogging! Great! With the first Blog cabin sometimes we waited a week. Noticed that you were updating a lot faster, but WOW, with the number of bloggers responses. instant bloging will help you guys at DIY a lot. I for one, am looking forward to being able to read people's responses quickly and not having a book to go through......
Sounds good to me......
Posted by: Lynn in NC at January 17, 2008 3:29 PM
I agree that the pourch off the kitchen should be screened in and that a 1/2 bath is needed by the rear foyer, and that the foyer should be turned into a mud room.
As for the fireplace, I like wood, and a fireplace insert would help those that have allergies or breathing problems, there are ones with big glass doors so you can watch the flames.
What about solar heating or some kind of harnessing the wind device, it sounds like there is quite a bit of wind in the area.
There should be at least one set of steps and a ramp off the back pourch, for those that are handicapped.
Pourch swings are also a nice touch, facing the lake.
I don't really like either of the lighting designs, they do not look like something for a log cabin.
The D logs would work better because it is hard trying to hang kitchen cabinets and not easy to hang art or pictures on.
Posted by: Nanci at January 17, 2008 3:46 PM
There are a few things I would like to see changed , not changed or added.
Leave the washer & dryer alone. Just how much time do you spend at them? I would say most people put the loads on and walk away to hang and fold items. That is the place it would be nice to have a folding table and a hanging spot. Maybe a drop down board for items that have to be pressed or ironed. It still is not a place I would spend so much time like cooking or just relaxing. That is when I would like to be able to see the lake.
I don't see how the kitchen can be moved since the rear entry, really side, is behind it and if you move it how will it service the dining room. The placement of the kitchen on the plans is my second most dislike about the plans. How could it be opened up to the a great area if it is moved?
Since the rear is a side entrance can there be a covered parking area place along that side of the house? There are alot of trees and some look to be the types that drop leaves or sap that would destroy a paint job on a vehicle.
That entrance should be like a mud room with a closet or place to hang jackets and wet or muddy things. The plans have a room that could be used for storage of these items and help with extras from the kitchen or a folding table. May it would be a large room to hanle laundry needs and a mud room with some storage.
I was wondering about the driveway and parking area types of materials. I think concrete is so city unless you stamp it or used pavers for this area. It should be something that looks natural and not hard and cold. I also remember what the drive way and parking for the 2007 cabin looked like when it rained. What a mess and a muddy one.
That brings me to a gutter system. With the wrap around porch and a steep roof lines for a two story house it seems you would need a gutter system and one that sheds the leaves and debris so the gutters don't get clogged. With this much roof and run off, it would be great if the water could be caputured and used within the house or at least yard and plant watering and other outside uses. It would be a green thing.
One thing I really like about the 2007 Blog Cabin was the storage area under the cabin. It looks like enough of a decline from the road there could be an area under some part of the building to store yard equipment. Otherwise it needs a log storage building to compliment the house.
I do agree with some of the people that part of the porch needs to be screened or some type of system to close off a section when the bugs are about. That would help to allow a part fenced off for us pet lovers. As already pointed out, you can not fence off a section if the porch is open all of the way around the house. I am not saying you should add a fence but set up the porch so a fence could be added.
I voted for the square logs since they would be easier to do maintenance. Plus this area seems a little more formal than a really rural area where the rounded or D logs would look natural.
I voted for gas logs since I grew up around old homes with giant fireplaces and that was the only heat. It is so much easier to turn on the gas. I have had homes with wood burning fireplaces and they are hard to keep clean and without a good return system for heat they are no better than a gas heater. I have gas log now and it is great not having to cut down or order wood. Then you have to worry about the bugs that come in with the logs plus the things that love to live in, under and around a log stack. Plus logs can get a fungus on them or have chemicals on or in them that cause serious problems. Be sides they can really smell up a house. There is a mess to clean or chimney cleaning from burning wood. You can use gas logs to help heat a room and you can control the temperature better. There is no way to control how hot a log will burn. You would have to have close doors to keep from burning everyone up. There is the problem with poping and the coders. They are a hazard and can burn you or cause a fire in the house. The one best thing about gas logs is you can turn them off and go to bed where wood burning fireplaces, you have to let them burn out and can not even clean out the bin if there is hot pieces of wood. The worst thing about wood burning fireplaces is they require wood and it is getting harder to find or you pay a high prices. It would seem green frinedly to not burn wood. At least for inside have gas logs and use wood for the outside fireplace on the porch.
There was another type of porch light that is not a choice. Those mounted to the ceiling and don't hang down. I like them better than wall mounted.
I will save my thoughts on the inside when we start looking at it and making choices.
Posted by: Frances in Texas at January 17, 2008 4:02 PM
I voted for the Willow because I liked that there was an office/library. While I'm all for togetherness, sometimes it's nice to have a little space but still be connected to the rest of the family. I also liked that it was all on one level. As my husband gets older (and after having served a year in Afghanistan) his knees just aren't as good as they used to be. One story is also more fuel efficient and better and keeping the heat on the first floor. The San Jacinto, has a dramatic entrance, but may be hard to heat.
I prefer the D or squared logs because it will be easier to hang art work or keep the dust off.
Posted by: Amy at January 17, 2008 4:18 PM
I have enjoyed reading all the comments regarding changes for the blog cabin. It seems that I have agreed with all the popular choices. I do disagree however on the woodburning fireplace. I personally feel that gas logs would be cleaner and much better for those of us who suffer from allergies.
Posted by: Helen at January 17, 2008 4:25 PM
I would like to comment on the log style.
The round logs that most people think are the traditional log for log homes are only partialy right. These were temporary housing for when the early settlers got caught with bad weather coming and no shelter, these homes were usually one room with low ceilings a fireplace for warmth and cooking, a door, two very small windows if any, and dirt floors. The square hand hewn dovetail log with chinking was used for the permanent family home and was usually two story with porches and lots of windows, and lots of rooms with tall ceilings . The square log resembled the clapboard siding that the women were used to back east. The two story round log homes were usually not built by the settlers but much later on.
Sorry, didn't mean to ramble.
This all being said I voted for the D log, lends itself to the sight well outside and speaking form experience the flat wall inside looks great and is easier for hanging cabinets and pictures.
I agree with moving the fireplace porch to the other side for privacy, the othe set of steps great idea, when the porch and fireplace are moved extend the porch by the master bed room to even up the outside look of the house and add a romantic private sitting area , it looks lopsided. The road view of the house needs the porch entry widened, a stoop with all the other porches in my opinion just looks odd.
Liked the idea of leaving the washer and dryer as they are and the folding room and storage in the adjacent room.
I live in a log home with a prow full of windows and the view is great and the home is very bright even in winter, I also say move the fireplace so it can be a focal point to a couple of different rooms.
Add the windows upstairs for natural light.
Take a look at the floor plan, blance the look, I agree about the windows in DR and MBR I just love a house that is symetrical and balanced, it does not insult the senses and in my opinion is very appealing. You can't have enough porches or windows on this house with this wonderful lake side lot, get the design team at Barna homes to work.
I have one question, are the logs kiln dried? This makes a big difference in weight of logs and with insect control and with the way the doors and windows and cabinets are installed. If they are kiln dried you eliminate the sliding frames and you can screw your cabinets to the walls as in a stick built home. I barna doesn't kiln dry maybe and idea to go with on the 2009 blog cabin.
Posted by: Roger Triplett at January 17, 2008 4:53 PM
I would skip the double doors in the front entry. Go w/ a 3'-3'6" nice wood door w/ side lights on one side or both sides. This will allow a brighter foyer.
I disagree w/ the hanging pentant porch light. The problem is, they move!
10' deck on the lake side.
What is the space between the MB shower and the foyer?? If the foyer was any bigger, might as well put the dining room in there too.
I assume the room across from the washer and dryer area is a pantry or what-ever room. I agree w/ an earlier blogger about making that the laundry/lake stuff storage and make the closet where the washer and dryer are now into the pantry.
Steve
Posted by: Steve at January 17, 2008 5:03 PM
I hadn't checked the blog for a couple of days, great ideas coming out, myself I like the square logs, porch light?? I'm an astronomer unless I'm expecting company no visible outside lights for me, some low voltage point of source lights along a walk or driveway, lighting only the immediate area is all that is required.
But the fire place, this is a cabin and a wood buring fireplace is needed, but why not go with a modern insert using wood disks or similar, there are many very efficient styles that actually burn nearly as clean as gas, yet give enough BTU's to keep the cabin toasty warm on the coldest winter night. Not exactly traditional, but they work great and the new styles are beautiful.
Al
Posted by: Alfred Fink at January 17, 2008 5:40 PM
I voted for the round logs, think it would look more like homes of the past.
Voted on the gas fireplace, more enviromentally friendly.
I am glad the San Jacinto floor plan won. That foorplan is a lot like the log home we are building.
I loved the show last year, heres hoping this year will be just as good.
Happy blogging
Jacque H
Posted by: Jacque H at January 17, 2008 6:25 PM
I too have had issues navigating around on the site. Slowly I am getting there! I agree that more information needs to be posted before voting is opened. In trying to find out information about the types of logs it told me I had voted, which I did not do, and then it locked me out & I could not even pull up the pictures tosee what I was supposed tohave voted on was. It just drove me nuts until the next day before I went back in to look around & finally was able to vote.
I love some of the additional ideas the bloggers are submitting but I think I would leave the washer & dryer where they are & put in a laundry station across from it with the window there. No one stands at the washer & dryer long enough to look out at the view . If we want to enjoy the view believe me it won't be at the washer or dryer!
I don't think everyone is thinking about down the road with the logs they are choosing! Yes, round are traditional but if you look at cabins in the National park they are square. Also, if you use the round logs just remember ladies, that's another surface to collect dust that you have to clean & believe me it doesn't take long to collect!
I loved following the building of the first Blog cabin especially since they are neighbors of ours. We have a little place in Townsend just down the street from where they are. We happend to be there after Christmas & stopped by to say hello but no one was home. I hope to be able to meet them in the future.
We can't wait to see & be a part of the voting on this cabin!
Keep up the great work!
Ninette
Posted by: Ninette at January 17, 2008 6:26 PM
my dear watson...(couldn't resist!) that is quite all right! i blogged my way through the '07 cabin from start to finish and i appreciate that it is a safe environment, thank you diy staff!
brenda
Posted by: brenda orton at January 17, 2008 6:31 PM
YA KNOW, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE PERSON THAT SAID THEY WOULD LIKE A ONE LEVEL CABIN (AS WOULD I)AND HOW NICE THAT W0ULD BE FOR US SLOWING DOWN PEOPLE OR LIMITED ACCESS!!! WE ARE NOW HAVING THE BEAUTIFUL TWO STORY "SAM JACINTO" SO HOW ABOUT A ELEVATOR!! THINK HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY THAT! OR, WHO WOULDN'T!!! JUST A GOOD THOUGHT...
KISSES
Posted by: CHARLOTTE at January 17, 2008 6:38 PM
Please consider a fireplace insert for the woodburning choice so that it will be efficient as well as traditional.
Light sconces are more cabin traditon and easier to maintain.
Posted by: Lynelle at January 17, 2008 6:42 PM
As I'm sure you have already heard this I would highly recommend that you move the washer and dryer!!! I would suggest that you move it opposite to where it is into that walk in pantry and move the pantry into the space where the washer and dryer were. There is absolutely no room where it is now,anyone who has to do much laundry, and being on a lake, you will be, would appreciate the space!!! It would be more of a mud room, which is needed at a cabin. I would also recommend putting in bathtubs upstairs, there are 4 closet spaces in each room and I would give up some of that space for a tub, if you have children that would potentially be in these rooms, most little kid take baths, not showers, it would be very inconvenient to have to go down stair to the master just for a bath. The last thing would be to move the extended deck area/fireplace to the other side of the house, this are is where you would want a table and chairs and a grill. It would make the most sense over there having it closer to the kitchen than to have to drag all the food drinks etc. clear across the house, besides, I would prefer to have more privacy in the master and not have people running in there to access the closest bathroom!!! Since the closest door is into the master, the next closest is clear on the other side of the house in the dining room. There needs to be another door into the great room if you are not going to move the large deck space.
Posted by: Melissa at January 17, 2008 6:58 PM
A garage is important. Mybe make it a outbuliding.
away from cabin...
I like the idea of river rock for all the fireplaces Love river rock..
I agree about adding stairs on the lakeside...a must.Love the Lake site.
Posted by: Tracy G. Smith at January 17, 2008 7:05 PM
Hey Watson....
Thanks for taking the time needed to get everyones blog in. It would be nice to hear from the Blog Cabin team team at least once a weak, not 11 days between blogs. Or is that too much for Ahmed to take on!!! Where's AMY
Glenn
Posted by: Glenn at January 17, 2008 7:30 PM
I think it's real nice of you people to let us vote on the Cabin. We shouldn't be trying to change it in any way. This is something "Special" that you are doing for the people who use your site.
I have been voting on everything so far. I haven't even thought about changing anything, I think it's "Great" the way it is.
Seems like everyone else wants to change things. Leave it like it is, Please!! Susan Henle
Posted by: Susan Henle at January 17, 2008 8:46 PM
The round logs give a more "log" feel but the D log allows some alternatives as far as the inside walls go.
As for the fireplace...the gas log makes more sense as it is cleaner, no need to store wood, no bugs, and yes it can throw adequate heat into a room if there is a fan...go gas!!!
Posted by: Paul Holland at January 17, 2008 8:51 PM
I voted for the round logs not thinking about the inside. I read the blogs on the d-logs and wish I had picked them.
I agree a bathroom on the second floor with access from the loft is really important. I also think moving the washer/dryer is a good idea.
I love this house and can't wait to vote for the next items!
Posted by: Kathy at January 17, 2008 8:58 PM
Love the plan! I would like to see that room accross from the laundry made into a combo office/bunk room. Also, the kitchen ought to have an island instead of a peninsula.
Posted by: Connie at January 17, 2008 9:00 PM
Hey blog designers about those porches especially the master bedroom porch: I do sincerely hope diy leaves it right where it is. This porch could be a nice restful, relaxing get away for the home winners! Just think with it screened in or sunroomed. It would be a place to have romantic alone time with you sweetheart, to talk, or plan things away from the kids or guest. Lets face it we all get tired before the guest do usually. The fireplace could be so comforting on a cool and rainy fall day, or even on a cold winters night. You could add a screen door if screened in or french doors if sunroomed to connect it to the back porch. Then when coming out of the master retreat porch door(s) keep the porch but then at the corner of the house add a step or two down to an open sundeck or patio between the homeowners porch. Then from the sun deck: add steps and or a pathway heading down toward the backyard & lake. If you didn't feel the call of the fish; you could just walk on across the little porch and you would be just to the left of the living room chimney. Well, right here I suggest let's double the living room fireplace to the outside and add a screened in room, a screen door entrance to the left side, from the little porch, foot or two away from the fireplace, we should extend the screen room a few feet wider toward the lake and then take it all the way down to and past the dining room french doors, and stop at the corner of the house with the screen room, then put in another screen door and repeat the little porch and steps down to match the sundeck on the other side of the entertaining screen room if enough room and wrap the sundeck completely around the entertaining screen room : Then start the side porch all the way down this side of the house toward the front of the house. That is if there is not going to be a garage. I think you could still have the porch and have or add a detached garage connected like a breeze way. Add railings , lights, fans, rockers and porch swings in all of the porch areas, sun loungers, planters and built in benches on the sundeck. Now right near the dining room add the bbq grill with a powerful exhaust fan and lights for late night cook outs above it for helping with the smoke & heat from the grill. The grill should be in the screen room to help keep the bugs off the food. Don't forget the patio tables & chairs, maybe a swing if enough room in there. Plus by adding the matching set of steps coming off the lower sundeck on the other side this is giving access to the lake and this would greatly help with traffic flow. Thanks for listening to our ideas. As you can see I am having alot of fun thinking about this home. This gives me a creative way to spend my time. Thanks for the dreams you are giving to all of us.....
Posted by: Carrie MIracle at January 17, 2008 9:17 PM
I would like to see the porch flipped so the outdoor living space and fireplace is on the KITCHEN end, and not the master suite end. Totally makes more sense over there, and would ease the transition to outdoor dining, especially if entertaining.
Would like to see faster access to kitchen from foyer area...maybe put two steps into the kitchen on the other side of that first landing and definitely move the w/d.
Location is just stunning.
Posted by: Erica at January 17, 2008 9:24 PM
I like the plan that was chosen, but I feel that the outside fireplace should be moved to the other side of the house. I feel that if it was on the other side of the house off the kitchen it would be more efficient, and it would be more user friendly when entertaing guests. I also feel that the entrance should be more grand.
Posted by: Erik at January 17, 2008 10:10 PM
The sides of the porch need access to the back yard . I suggest a set of stairs, one on each end of the house leading to the back yard. Or better yet, an open air deck, the full length of the back of the cabin with one grand staircase !!
Posted by: joeb at January 17, 2008 10:32 PM
Watson,
Thank you for your censorship. I know I really enjoy it and I am sure others do as well. I don’t think other people read what other people are writing; they just want to express their opinions and aren’t really listening to others. Like this post, I am sure you are the only one who is going to read it and censor it.
“D logs” I have switched. After reading many blogs you all have changed my mind. Thank you for setting me straight.
Posted by: Davey J at January 17, 2008 11:06 PM
Hello America and THANK YOU DIY!!! I Love your programs!
Here goes my 2 cents-I believe in multi-use/function.
My comment is regarding the fireplace. My dream was always to have a wood fireplace with a converter to simply insert the gas log insert for those days people with asthma are in the house or you feel lazy and don't want to build a fire.
The other topic is safety. I believe putting in "hidden plumbing" which could serve two purposes 1)to create an asthetic(sp?) waterfall (like three tier drops each side) the water sumped back up.
You might want to use pool lights(water safety) to highlight the "waterfall fireplace"
2) fire safety. If you do it right, you can incorporate a hidden water system and a hidden drain for that emergency that always looms.
Oh, also a thought- from watching DIY- put a t.v. above the mantle- one that can be hidden in some way. Behind a picture or a drop down mechanism.
Anyway, that's my two cents. Sounds wild but we just purchased our 1st home and plan on re-doing the f.p. in our living room. I designed it years ago in my head now I have a chance to do it.
p.s.You also need to get "Holmes on Homes" with you! He's Great also!
Posted by: Donna Halstead at January 17, 2008 11:35 PM
this too funny my entry is always under anothers name!!! so a pendant lite is going to be difficult to change those bulbs, also i like motion lites
Posted by: coleen at January 18, 2008 12:34 AM
The 'D' style log sysrem seems to be the best. It gives the outside of the cabin that old style look and gives the inside a flat wall to work with. With a round wall inside you have a lot of area to collect dust and cob webs up high where it is almost impossible to clean. As far as the fire places go you have togo with the wood burner, with the new inovations and designs they are just as energy efficient as an artificial one. The outside light is still up in the air, I like them both.
Posted by: stephen trew at January 18, 2008 1:19 AM
I love Blog Cabin 2007. Amy and all the DIY specialists were great. I've always wanted a lake house so this year's cabin hits a major chord.
I voted for the San Jacinto and the D-logs as well. Great design! Love the loft over the great room. Line the walls with book shelves and put a big, overstuffed chair beside the window over the front entry. More windows in the opposite fireplace wall would allow for a view of the lake from there as well.
I've been reading all the posts and thought I'd add my two cents:
1. Laundry - Leave the washer/dryer in the closet where they are, but do put a utility sink and sorting/folding/ironing area in the room across from them.
2. Screen in the Master Bedroom deck area with a wood burning fireplace and a large ceiling fan.
3. Definitely a walk-out basement. Where else do you expect to store all the water toys and garden equipment?
4. Stairs off the back of the deck for 1) access to the lake shore, 2) access to the wood pile, and 3) access to the walk-out basement.
I'll keep checking the blog to keep up with all the posts.
Posted by: Barbara Ritchie at January 18, 2008 1:44 AM
here's just some questions i have. the wrap around porch is great but are you wanting to put pendant lights on the whole thing? i think that you should do a mix of pendant and sconce fixtures and through in some ceiling fans for the areas off the master bedroom.
moving on to the fireplace i have 2 questions. which fireplace are we voting for? the great room, the outside one, or the one that looks to be in the corner of the master bedroom?
and now the log style... i grew up with neighbors on both sides that had round and the complaints were many. so the best choice that i forsee is the "d" shape. it still gives the traditional style but leaves you the option to move things around inside the home later if you need to add on or you want to change it.
thanks
randee
Posted by: randee w. at January 18, 2008 2:34 AM
CHERYL read what Matt said about the logs, 6x12 NOT SO GREEN. You might want to research your choice. 8" logs are verde of all greens. I am feeling the energy of this censored, almost real time blog. I just can't wait to see what we are going to be allowed to see next.
Posted by: Davey J at January 18, 2008 4:39 AM
I can't believe D logs are in the lead. Yikes! They are so tacky and unattractive, especially the corner profile. If you want a flat inner wall, go for the 6 x 12 Appalachian style, otherwise, the round log profile is my choice. Of course, what I would really prefer is a bigger log, say 12" minimum, hand scribed, not machined. Then you would have a "real" log home, not a manufactured home.
Posted by: Lynn at January 18, 2008 4:39 AM
I hope more people vote for Gas Log. While wood burning sounds like a great idea, the mess and smell after a while is less enchanting. You can always make a fire ring outside if you want a nice wood fire. I have asthma, so you know what I voted for!
Posted by: Jim Gerke at January 18, 2008 8:43 AM
I didn't get to vote on the last one. We couldn't get diy then. I have voted on all on this one so far, I wish the blueprint was a little larger. I don't see all the detail like the other voter are seeing. I like the one for the porch being inclosed with the fireplace. The island facing the great room is great too.
Thanks,
K.
Posted by: K. Arndts at January 18, 2008 8:47 AM
Hello DIY,
I have a "CHANGE ORDER" request...
I like the idea of adding windows in the great room upper level...however...can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have a...
FULL LOG GABLE there? I think LOG ALL THE WAY UP THE WALL (no drywall) looks amazing! Even if you have windows there.
Posted by: cabinscraps at January 18, 2008 8:59 AM
Fireplaces wood vs. gas
1. The one in the great room I think should be gas for 2 reasons: (a) For those I read about in the blog who are handicapped; gas would work better for them and (b)Gas/propane burns cleaner and doesn't make a mess.
2. The one on the deck can be wood burning, which makes sense, because you are surrounded by woods and can get endless firewood, or have it delivered, either way being outside is less concern for mess.
Posted by: Lisa at January 18, 2008 9:21 AM
The floorplan choice is great. Few changes would be to eliminate the master tub and put in a large shower. Garden tubs have been the least used feature in homes for years. Everyone wants one and then it never gets used. I would also want the covered porch screened. A great feature would be for the screen to be moved to the side or somehow removed for the fall and winter. It would be nice during the cold weather to sit on the porch with a fire going a not have to look through the screen at the lake. Great idea and show.
Posted by: Tom at January 18, 2008 10:43 AM
Hi, I'm new to this and am always late in the getting in on the ground floor(excuse the pun). I missed the voting on the floor plan, but I'm glad you all picked the one I would have voted for!
I caught the voting on last years Cabin at the tail end; But did make some contributions. I surely hope to win this years Cabin.......so watch out!
Posted by: Norm Seiff at January 18, 2008 10:44 AM
My favorite type of log is the round log system. To me if you are going to have round logs on the outside you need to have round logs on the inside as well. It just adds to the atmosphere of a log home. I disagree with with one of the earlier entries that stated a lakefront cabin needed a more upscale look. The round logs give a cozier feel to the home. Come on all you round log lovers cast your votes.
You definitely have to have a wood burning fireplace even though a gas fireplace is nice it is just not the same.
Posted by: Beverly at January 18, 2008 10:48 AM
I have a sugestion to move the powder room to were the Pantry is now that way you have access thru the rear foyer rather then going thru the great room and then I would move the Laundry to were the powder room is with access thru the master closet and then put the Pantry were the washer and dryer are currently and I still like the idea of moving the outside deck to the other side.
Posted by: Richard at January 18, 2008 11:13 AM
This is a great show - we watched all of the 2007 Blog Cabin - the 2 young men supervising the construction were very good and made the show very informational and fun too!
The suggestions for swapping the porches is good - no it's GREAT - to have the fireplace porch off the master bedroom, well . . . it's better off the kitchen and dining room. Better traffic flow.
Speaking of 'flow' - need more access on and off the decks. And keeping handicapped people in mind would be a great feature, and it's nice to build with those people in mind.
Gas for inside and wood for outside.
Lighting - a hanging fixture for the large porch with fireplace - rest sconces.
I am confused about the 'rear' foyer - is it really in the rear? :o)
Posted by: PJ Jackson-Frisby at January 18, 2008 11:22 AM
im thinking leave the laundry where its at [except how do you vent the dryer?].then the room across can be a craft room pantry poss place for the deep freeze ect.the concerns i have about the wrap around porch how dark is this going to make the interior of the house??? so maybe sky lites in the porch roof placed to add lite to the windows esp the kit, master and dining rm. just a thought.
Posted by: colleen at January 18, 2008 11:28 AM
How about french doors off the master bedroom to get the effect of the fire place?? A fire place in the bedroom would be the ultimate!! I agree about the room across from the laundry, add a sink and folding area with lots of cabinets for storage(maybe a pantry).
Posted by: Michelle at January 18, 2008 12:12 PM
Greetings and Fair Warning: this entry will ramble on...I can hardly keep up with all the thoughts that are whirling around in my head about the cabin ... It has taken hold of my imagination big time! And there have been so many great ideas already posted, I apologize if some are repeated here ... but a good idea does bear repeating.
To begin with the screen porch idea ....I am currently using a great bug defense system on my porch ... Attached at the ceiling on a track system (similar to around a hospital bed) and at the corners and floor with Marine Snaps, it was very easy to install, much less expensive than other screening-in methods and can be removed and washed to remove pollen, and for winter storage. It is also great because it can be pushed back on the track and gathered (like drapes) at times when an open space is desired, or when the season is over, if taking it down is not desired. The purchase was made at www.mosquitocurtains.com, which offered the best quality and pricing and instructions of all the sites visited prior to buying. Now...on to the tweaking of the plans. Moving the washer/dryer to the window room is a good idea, especially if energy saving front loading units with the controls on the front panel are used. A large folding area could be installed above, running the length of the wall (or the length minus an area for a utility sink) allowing for folding of clothes, as well as an area for crafts and such, (think of all those pine cones and rocks picked up by kiddos on nature walks). And the addition of a cable ready hook-up area for a computer (you know we want one!) would work well here (Fabric on a rod could conceal the wsher/dryer when not in use, making the space user friendly and eye appealing. A corner shower in this room would also be a real plus.... especially if equiped with a celing shower head AND a faucet about 15 inches from the floor .... great for clean-up of both two and four legged lake adventurers. (Who wouldn't appreciate stopping muddy paw prints from decorating the homestead!) Now, in the area vacated by the washer/dryer, a toilet and sink would fit nicely. Storage cabinets above the toilet and a built-in pantry cupboard in the utility room are essential, of course. Even one of those handy ironing board built-in between the studs would be so appreciated. Pocket doors on either (or both) areas would help with traffic flow, too. As for the rear foyer (which is located in the front of the house, a built-in area with cubbies for shoes and boots, along with hooks for coats and an area to accommodate fishing rods would be grand. And, if a utility sink did not fit in the new washer/dryer/shower/clean-up area, a deep farmers sink would really help (somewhere to toss those fish or fill with ice for those at the lake get-togethers with friends new and old. The side door provides easy access, but stairs to the ground level near this door are a must (think lugging in groceries).
In the Master Bathroom... does anyone else wonder about the master tub location.... that is a mighty big window (especially if the front porch were extended).... not only is privacy an issue, but also the location could prove mighty cold at times. Maybe the tub location and sink area could be switched. Now...on to the great room...couldn't the fireplace have a gas hook-up, but still allow the use of real logs, if the line was not used? And, what about the addition of a rear clean-out door ... very handy for ash removal. Also, with the bathroom moved to the kitchen area, the powder room area could now become a huge storage closet. Upstairs,now...a door allowing access to the bathroom (across from stair landing) would allow use by those enjoying the loft area, without having to walk through someone's bedroom. By reworking this bathroom, sliding it a bit, a sink and toilet and bathtub could be private to that bedroom, with the toilet and an additional sink for the loft dwellers to use. And, yes, more windows, please .... views are so spectacular...let us not waste any vantage points! Couple of more random musings....a basement would really be a plus and hope the blueprint stairs indicate that one is planned. And, it seems everyone likes all the door areas in the dining room, but that leaves very little wall space. Maybe some is needed. To all who have made it to the end of this posting...Thank you for bearing with me. Memories in the Making!
Posted by: KateByTheLake at January 18, 2008 12:34 PM
Hi All:
Well finally I am posting on the right blog, all my postings appeared on the floor plane blog. Great ideas I see here, but the main one I like is the idea of making the home hadicapped acessable, this also help people that are elderly.(I am both been disabled for 34 years and now close to retirement age)modifications for the hadicapped are expensive once the place is built. I haven't noticed any response from the DIY team on this subject.
I did chose this floor plan ...... Great plan, did like the suggesstion to change the style of stair case having a landing. Also changing the outdoor fireplace to the other side not near master.
I have been voting on the gas logs for inside at least more enviromently friendly(seems they are losing)
I live 30 feet from the lake in Texas and winds off the lake are not good to have pendant lighting. I do not know what the winds are like in TN.
I love the idea someone brought up the idea for the new walk in bathtubs and showers.....great for the disabled.
I did notice a lot of bloggers saying this is only a vacation home.... I do nt see any reason not living in it year round.
Looks like we have great blogging for this cabin.
Posted by: Mary at January 18, 2008 12:39 PM
As far as the Porch lighting goes I believe a combination of sconce and hanging pendant is needed. The sconce at the cabin doors and hanging pendant in the open walk areas. A hanging pendant at the main entry with two sconces (one on either side of the door) would be dramatic. If you only had hanging pendant lighting, they would be behind the person trying to unlock and enter the cabin creating dark shadows. The wall sconce would provide a better source of light at the doors for operating them.
Posted by: Terry at January 18, 2008 12:50 PM
i have to agree about that huge tub in the master bath. a waste of space that people find they never use.
and screened in porch! water + summer = BUGS. if you ever want to sit out there and enjoy that water view some part has to be screened.
Posted by: fitz at January 18, 2008 1:05 PM
I have to agree with putting the outside fireplace somewhere else, maybe outside the great room and make the porch of the master bedroom more intimate and private. Round logs have good thermal mass, you can seal them on the inside to make for easier cleaning. The elevator suggestion I think is a great idea, for those of us who are not so young. Our cabin (when finished) is 12 inch logs, they are so big they look great. Just a thought for next year. Gas firplace on the inside and wood burning on the outside sounds like a better idea. That way everyone is happy, and inside air is a lot healthier. Goe thermal and waterless hot water excellent. Being more cost effective and enviromentially friendly. Are the inside walls going to be logs or drywalled, a mixture would be great, making it more light and airy. Dont like laundry closet's but we did pick this floor plan. I am guessing the room across from it would be a walk in pantry. Sconce lighting seems more tradional, as they didnt have hanging lights back then, just a lantern sitting on something outside or hanging on a wall. It is great reading all the blogging and everyone's ideas. Would be nice to hear from the host?
Well happy blogging.
Jacque H
Posted by: Jacque H at January 18, 2008 1:25 PM
I didn't get to vote on the last cabin (my fault), but I really enjoy "helping" design this one.
I voted for the Gas Logs. Not because health reasons (well maybe some), but because I am getting older and taking care of a woodburning fireplace will end up being a chore and we won't be able to enjoy it as much. Propane is cleaner to burn in the house and has less of those "evil" pollutants going into the air.
Posted by: Larry at January 18, 2008 1:53 PM
An extra door:
I know we are not at the door and window stage, but if I don't tell you now I'll forget later, so here goes.
I think there should be an additonal door off the great room on the side of the master bedroom so you can get to the outside fireplace without having your guest go through your bedroom.
Posted by: Lisa at January 18, 2008 2:04 PM
Hi,
I love the floor plan!!!! I think the D logs would be the best, but am still looking into log styles. Love a wood buring fireplace. The only thing I would add is a gas starter. Yes to the windows on the second floor. This would allow for more natural light and less use of electricity. The stairs off the back deck-yes. The light for the front porch-the scone. The hanging light is to formal. I look forward to the viewing the progess and voting.
Karen
Posted by: Karen at January 18, 2008 2:49 PM
Poor Ahmed!
Well, just one "Thank you Ahmed" would probably feel good about now.
So, Thank you.
You don't need to post this.
Posted by: Joybird at January 18, 2008 3:58 PM
I'm a D-log fan, but won't take anything away from the others - they all have their pluses and minuses.
I think the pendent lighting will be a mistake on the lake. Let the wind whistle just once and you will see my point.
Wood fires are the only way to go. You might as well be sitting in front of your BBQ with gas.
Just my opinions and you know what they say about those.
Bob
Posted by: Bob at January 18, 2008 4:19 PM
Hello DIY!
Please add a 2nd bedroom on the first floor of the cabin. It needs to have an accessible bathroom as well with a roll in shower please! The cabin should be able to be used by people of all abilities.I believe that a screen porch and basement are also much needed items. What a great location! I would love to win this retreat.
Posted by: Ty at January 18, 2008 4:22 PM
Ok I admit it I think I may have gotten a little too excited and carried away with the sundeck wrapping all around the back porch screen room. maybe to the right side with steps accessing the backyard. But I do think that putting a (2nd )screened in room on the back of the house, where the great room fire place chimney is a good idea. Start at the left end of the great room and just double the fireplace, triple the space for the porch toward the lake and make a huge screened in(entertaining) room, stop the room at the right end of the house and add steps coming off end of the porch into the back yard for lake access here as well and then continue the porch at normal porch length and then go the length of the house toward the front. I personally prefer porches to be somewhat wider than the normal. It gives you room to get around the swings & rockers and the legs sticking out. Maybe extend the rear foyer size to meet the corner of the house also. I personally would also like to see a wider porch entrance on the front of the house. A bigger front porch seems more welcoming to me. Oh yes, Watson could we also see left and right house veiw elevation pics. And I agree with the person who suggested moving the kitchen bar to the other side of the kitchen. I too think that would help with a better traffic flow coming in/out through the kitchen-dining room area and maybe just a single glass door installed instead of french doors out the right side of the dining room. I had voted for the willow & would totally had picked it if I had the personal choice to build a home. But I do love this San jacinto!! It's grown on me... It will be a wonderful self entertaining place to be. I agree with others It will be a difficult homeplan for a handicapped family, especailly going up or downstairs and even if you have small kids there is alot of space between mom and the kids room. And alot of childproofing will be needed like safety gates, locks and maybe a fenced in play area to keep them safe and supervised. A lake can be very very dangerous for all kids. Please DIY try to keep this in mind while the home is being built.
Posted by: Carrie Miracle at January 18, 2008 4:24 PM
Will there be a garage? Just wondering........
Posted by: Steve at January 18, 2008 4:41 PM
Cabinscraps,
Having irregular shaped windows in a gable end w/ full logs is not advisable. Logs settle vertically.
Frame the gable as you would a stick house and log side one or both sides.
On another note, to the bloggers who want tubs upstairs, keep in mind those closets will not be very big due to the pitch of the roof. Yes they'll be somewhat deep but you can only put your hanging clothes in so far. Keep as is. I know when I was a kid, I had too much stuff to keep it all in my little closet. No place to put my toys so my room looked messy.
Still think the foyer is too big for this size house. And what is that void between the MB shower and the foyer?
Posted by: Steve at January 18, 2008 5:02 PM
I was just noticing my name is not on the post I sent in and is on someone elses.
I thought the crack about Ahmed not being able to handle the postings taking less than 11 days and wanting Amy back was uncalled for.
I am finding postings here in less than 24 hours.
Posted by: Nanci at January 18, 2008 5:45 PM
I have noticed some people asking for the gas logs 'because they are more environmental'. This isn't the case. Wood is carbon neutral, being a totally renewable energy source, and even if one adds the cost of energy to collect wood the carbon footprint is minimal. Gas has a considerably larger negative environmental impact and isn't renewable. Also, gas prices will rise in the near future and continue to do so and heating bills will rise much more rapidly than a wood burning fire. Maybe adding a blower system to a log fire would result in more efficient heating but there would be an envoironmental downside to this obviously.
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Posted by: Tracy G. Smith at January 18, 2008 6:35 PM
I voted for the D logs to give the outside the natural look, but to allow for smooth walls inside. I liked the idea of opening the fireplace to both sides.
On the fireplace I chose the gas logs, because of upcoming state's legislation dealing with wood burning fireplaces. I, being a smoker's rights leader in my area, I have read of possible legislation, starting in California, that wood burning fireplaces are hazardous to your health. Now I know that it is normal for California to do these things, but eventually it will lead to other states. No matter how hard we fought the tax hike and smoking ban in Tennessee, it still happened. So maybe everybody should think about the gas logs, to cause less cost in the future.
Just a tidbit of information.
Posted by: Bob at January 18, 2008 6:37 PM
Hello,
Why not something different with wood burning,
How about a free standing wood stove or a beautiful fireplace with a wood stove insert!!!?
Much better for the environment,more heat,less wood.
Thanks
Ray
Posted by: Ray Irwin at January 18, 2008 6:49 PM
Another new bloger, I'm mostly on HGTV or HGTV Pro but thought I would give this a look see. I just did make it to vote on the floor plan. And just got done voting on lights,fireplace and what style of logs. If this is on the lake why is thier no place to wash up after a day of fishing or whatever. Looks like the second bathroom would be a little closer to the back door. But if I could win something like this I wouldn't care where the second bathroom was
Posted by: clifton t wilder at January 18, 2008 6:58 PM
Propane is a poor choice because of its high cost
Posted by: Ray Irwin at January 18, 2008 7:05 PM
Would it be possible to change the outdoor fireplace and big porch to the other side of the house. I don't know if I'd want my company to walk through my bedroom if they had to go to the bathroom.
Posted by: William Griffith at January 18, 2008 7:48 PM
Love the idea of a cabin on the lake. My husband and I have always talked about having a cabin on a lake. This would be a dream come true for us or who ever wins.
The cabin needs steps off the back to access the back and the lake, a walk out basement, sceen in the side porch off the master and add ceiling fan. The fireplace in the cabin should be gas and the one outside be wood burning. There needs to be a bath tub up stairs plus a view of the lake from the loft.
Posted by: Joyce Litton at January 18, 2008 8:15 PM
a pantry would be nice
Posted by: john at January 18, 2008 8:35 PM
After reading the previous blog's, I agree with what they are saying. A screen in porch where the outside fireplace is not necessary. Where I live there are several houses that have this feature and they are not screen in. One question that has to be asked is there going to be gas appliances for the house. If not, a propane tank would take away from the overall look of the cabin.
Another thing that could be changed is the way the voting is done. Could the page be set up so we, the voters, can preview what we are voting on rather than just jumping right in and voting.
This is the first time i have done something like this and i think this is great.
Posted by: Jay at January 18, 2008 8:46 PM
HAS ANY ONE THOUGHT ABOUT THE ENVIROMENT. LETS MAKE THIS A GREEN LOG CABIN .
Posted by: R.C. at January 18, 2008 8:50 PM
Big windows, Big Windows, Big Windows, everywhere. What is waterfront property for if you can't see the water? Up stairs and down. French doors and Big WINDOWS!!! Lots of outdoor living space, screened and not screened. Stairs to the water a must. and...I LOVE TUBS. I use mine all the time! I agree, access to a bath upstairs is a must. Wood burning fireplaces inside and out. Ok, I guess my point is made. Gotta see that water! Great suggestions everyone! Good Luck to us all!!
Posted by: Patty at January 18, 2008 9:13 PM
Please do not get rid of the large tub in the master bath! Someone mentioned that it should be removed, and I would be lost without a large soaking tub. My once or twice a week relaxing bath is the only thing that keeps me sane sometimes. It is my escape from reality, and time away from children.
My thoughts on the fireplaces being wood burning or gas is to make it so either can be done. I grew up with a wood burning fireplace, and I remembered them fondly, until I had one again. Yes they can smell great, but they also make a mess. Most people I know who have them rarely use them, but the people with the gas logs use them all the time. Don't forget about going out in the rain to get wood, that hopefully is still dry, brushing off the spiders that live on the woodpile, the endless chopping of wood. Due to these and other issues, we very rarely used it, except for Christmas.
Posted by: Sharon at January 18, 2008 9:20 PM
Hope you go for gas logs...much less fuss and safr too. Most people forget although a wood fire is great, someone has to chop the wood and keep a supply of fire wood stacked. Should you start a wood fire and then decide to go out for a long walk or a boat ride, you better put that fire out. Gas logs today look just ike the real thing....but it's much easier to turn a handle to 'off' or 'on' that to bank a fire or wait until the embers die or try to lay a fire, especially if the fire wood got wet..
Posted by: Beryl at January 18, 2008 11:14 PM
I like the 8" round log style, but I think a rough hewn finish would be a better fit for this woodsy lakefront property. While I'm blogging, I may as well put in a bid for larger diameter logs, pleeeeeeeze. :)
Did I see an Art Deco wall sconce when voting? If that's what that was, it needs to go live in the empire state building LOL. We need warm, earthy, rusticity with the hardware and lighting, thanks.
Go, Ahmed! You da man!
Posted by: Tim at January 18, 2008 11:39 PM
Hi there! I am new to all this, but liking every aspect of it. I voted for the San Jacinto floor plan, the D-log and the sconce lighting. Though I voted for the wood burning fireplace, I can easily argue for both, so either one would do.
With regards to extending the back porch, I don't think it's a good idea. I personally love natural light, it helps save on electricity, so the more windows you can add, the better, and how about French doors?!
I dont' mind the location of the washer and dryer set, provided there is ample room for the folding, ironing and other washing activities that go along. I was not sure how to assess the size of their current location.
I would like to see a second set of stairs accessing the lake front, for practicality's sake moreso than anything else.
Finally, adding a bathtub upstairs would be a great idea, actually a "must" for some of us that need to spend a half hour soaking and relaxing.
Posted by: Hoda T at January 19, 2008 12:16 AM
not saying i dont like fireplaces but dont you think its a bit of a oxymoron to have a WOOD BURNING fireplace in a LOG HOME?
you put LOGs on a fireplace and you live in a LOG cabin.
do you see my point here?
sure a fireplace is a fireplace and a house is a house and a fireplace is a .02% risk no matter where you live.
it just seems funny to me
Posted by: ADAM bailey at January 19, 2008 12:38 AM
Along with putting the “Picnic Pavilion” with the auxiliary (wood burning) fireplace on the end with the kitchen how about making the porch off the Master Bedroom a more private space?
Posted by: MarkB MS at January 19, 2008 1:06 AM
Please leave the tub in! Not sure where stats come from on bathtub use but I know my husband and I use our tub. We may not always use the jets but love the option. It gets used at least 3-4 days a weeks.
Posted by: Cathy P. at January 19, 2008 1:55 AM
Brenda,
I will wrap my blogs as to protect you from anything damaging you might have never heard. I forgot, I don't have to, Watson has a handle on that. You MUST vote for 8" round LOGS!! It is the biggest and best logs there is.
Posted by: Davey J at January 19, 2008 2:54 AM
ok my earlier blog got switched with someone elses. but anyway i am still wondering what that corner thing is in the master bedroom it is by the walkin closet. and behind the powder room in the foyer. can you please explain... it looks to be another fireplace but i am unsure.
there are really great ideas being place on the blog.
i would love to win and would move my kids there to live all year round it would be a shame if it was to be just used for vacations.
Posted by: randee w. at January 19, 2008 3:30 AM
Hello, just food for thought when selecting whether the fireplace is wood or gas. There are a larger and larger number of people who have and are developing allergies to trees, pollen, saps, and elements growing in nature. A gas burning fireplace does not adversely effect most individuals with allergies or upper respiratory issues. Just something to ponder since we are talking about going green; the logs burning effect individuals inside and outside the cabin. My other suggestion for the type of log is to go up to the Mesabi Iron Range, if you don't know where that is(tee-hee-some minor humor) it's in Northern Minnesota where Ely, Tower, Virginia, Cook, and Britt and ask around up there. It is bitter cold for several months of the year and the folks up there can tell you what type of log will or won't keep heat in and cold out. Thanks for letting me have input. Teenie (my nickname)
Posted by: Teenie (nickname) at January 19, 2008 3:48 AM
I have been watching the 2007 blog cabin and did not input on the cbin, but I want to put in my two cents. I love the porch off the master bedroom with the fireplace. It needs to be screened in and also what about putting in french doors instead of the single door. You could always add a porch/patio on the other side of the kitchen/dining area for entertaining. Also, the W/D area needs to be moved to the room across from it so there is a mud room/wash room with a durable sink and window and you could put the pantry in the place of the current W/D area. At least one bathtub upstairs seems appropriate, especially if you have kids. One last thing, is there a way to make the porch continue around the house. The roof line has already been set so I'm not sure if that would be possible. Maybe it could be an open air deck/walkway type, just so you do not have to go through the house to let someone in, you can just walk around if you are anywhere else on the porch.
Thanks,
DC
Posted by: Debbie Culbreth at January 19, 2008 9:09 AM
Holding true to being environmentally friendly, I believe the better choice for the fireplace would be the gas fireplace. Also, I agree alergy sufferers are much better off with the gas fireplace than the woodburning.
Posted by: Jennifer at January 19, 2008 9:16 AM
Greetings WHawkins & fellow cabin lovers:
One of the Blog Cabin 2007 participants (sorry, I can't recall her/his name) suggested tee-shirts for the 2008 Blog Cabin event. I thought donating all/part of the proceeds to a local charity would be a great way to give back to the local community--not to mention more advertising! Any possibility of including this feature in the process?
You could open up the contest to high school or college students--either locally or nation-wide-- to design the tee-shirt, with the winner getting a scholarship prize (say, $1,000-$1,500???). Maybe bloggers could vote??
I'm sure you appreciate this blogger giving you suggestions on yet another "task," but thought it would be fun. Thank you for listening. Will be enthusiastically following the cabin progress!
Rebecca from Cleveland
Posted by: Rebecca at January 19, 2008 9:21 AM
The floor plan is fantastic but you might consider moving the fireplace to a sidewall and installing windows across the entire rear wall. We built our home with a fireplace centered on the rear wall and it takes away from the great view from inside the house.
Posted by: Bob Green at January 19, 2008 9:47 AM
hey everyone my cabin has 10" round logs and has a very appealing look,but if i had a do over i would chose a flat interior. of all the reasons for having a flat interior, mine would be installing trim and moulding. so much easier and more of a finish look. for the fireplace those who have a wood burner know its more work but so worth it. good luck to everyone mike
Posted by: mike at January 19, 2008 9:56 AM
Lisa has come up with the BEST solution to the fireplace conundrum--gas inside, wood outside. PERFECT! Is that possible oh great blog cabin designers? Otherwise...it's not great difficulty to convert a wodd burning fp to gas...we did it at our current home. I'll just change it if I win!
I'm going to start signing my posts...though I think the key is that our names show up UNDER our posts...not above.
Melanie
Posted by: Melanie See at January 19, 2008 10:06 AM
well, if you're considering suggestions i would like you to consider making the fireplace double sided as was available in your dream swept floorplan.
as to the current voting choices, i would like to argue for the sconce over the hanging lamp. i think the sconces lend to a more traditional look, plus the hanging lamps don't look as if they would do so well in a good wind as is possible in a lake environment.
i also agree with the comments on making the back and master BR porches screened-in. as much as i would love being that close to nature, i could do with minimizing the "pesty" side.
Posted by: Trista at January 19, 2008 10:56 AM
Amy/Gang,
I was sitting last night after having watched an old 2007 Blog Cabin show thinking about the windows I would like if I owned the new 2008 build home by the lake.
Instead of the old standard of double hung, I would like the casement style windows. When you open them you are opening the entire window space not just half. Most of the quality manufacturers are now offering them with the tinted low "E" nitrogen filled glass, and also they now come with the window blind built right into the window between the glass panels. To get the biggest bang for the window space, and bring the outside smells inside casement is the way I would go.
I was spending way to much time watching TV last night and saw an ad for something that in the background was a kitchen. The man was standing in what appeared to be a mid point between the kitchen and dining room. While he was talking they took the guy at a different angle and you could see his living room. This gave me a flashback to the new home by the lake blueprints. Is it possible to open up the kitchen, dining room , and living room into one big open area without walls dividing them (I think its called a great room)? It just seems that homes these days are closing off the family from one another. We have homes here in the Chicagoland area 3, and 4,000 sq.ft. that only two adults live in and sometimes they may have a kid. When dinner is ready they have to e-mail or text each other just to keep all informed, this is no way to live. Divorce rate in this area should be dropping as each time they see each other its like a new relationship just starting out, that’s sad.
I think back how people used to live as a family unit. There was no family room, living room, kids play room, it was all one room, the whole family sat together at dinner and again after dinner watching TV or listening to the Radio (while the kids did there homework) together until bed time. Now we even have a special room for watching TV the Entertainment or Theater room. I lost my ex-wife to one of these rooms at some point in my life, she found we were living separate lives anyway why stay married I guess.
Amy, are you planning on having the stone guys build a nice walkway down to the lake from the house with subdued lighting, that would be way to cool.
Bob
Posted by: Robert at January 19, 2008 10:58 AM
although i suggested making the fireplace double sided as in the dreamswept designs, i actually prefer whawkins suggestions of a centralized doublesided fireplace.
i like it for the reasons suggested, but also it would make a more effective heat source. if you wanted to go really crazy, you could even make a hearth available to the loft using the same chute.
Posted by: Trista at January 19, 2008 11:05 AM
I love the rustic of a traditional log cabin. However, I voted for some more modern conveniences. I used to have a wood burning stove and while the heat is great, it is a mess to clean up. Not only do you have the ashes mess, there is always soot residue on the walls and ceiling to clean. Therefore I voted for the gas fireplace.
The cleaning brings me to why I voted for the D logs. On the outside they look like a traditional log cabin. Inside they are flat and allows for more room to get creative in decoratiing. Not to mention that a flat surface is easier to clean.
Finally I voted for a sconce light. It looks more traditional and is out of the way (in case you have a tall person walking on the porch. Also there is less chance of breaking from winds swinging a hanging light.
Well these are just my thoughts and why I voted as I did.
Posted by: Robin Ferrin at January 19, 2008 11:53 AM
I would love an island in the kitchen. I know in my house that is where we all gather when family is over. It is also nice when there are tons of people trying to cook. Plus the kids love being with you & this way you can have them in the kitchen but not in the way of the hot food.
A shower & a tub for the master room would be awesome. Because why should you have to go to the kids bathroom & have to try to relax when you just want to come out of the tub & get into bed where you can be nice & warm.
Posted by: Jaimie at January 19, 2008 11:57 AM
Another Fireplace Option PLEASE:
*Wood Pellet Stoves*
1) They are cheaper to operate then Gas...especially with rising gas prices.
2) Cleaner burning then wood stoves and low maintenance to use/clean.
3) Eco Friendly / Low Pollution / Recycles waste from sawmills.
For More Info: http://www.woodpelletstoves.net/
Thanks for the concideration!
Posted by: Keith & Susan at January 19, 2008 12:01 PM
I really like the floor plan, but I agree that steps to the lake could be great. I like the square logs because they are a little different. Also I like the gas fireplace for the convenience. Believe me, I live in Colorado and have had a wood burning fireplace for 25 years. They are a pain to start and to keep clean!! Even though it is outside, you still have to remember that, right?
Posted by: Scarlett Ohde at January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
I'm glad to see we have some converts to the D log style. I'm still lobbying for the gas logs inside. Someone mentioned wood burning for the outside and I agree with that.
Another reason for gas logs is... termites. Reality is that those lil cridders are aggressive in the south. Storing logs for the fire near the house is an open invitation for unwanted houseguests. For this reason, smart homeowners in the south will keep the firewood far from the house. This wouldn't be a big deal if you're having an outdoor fire nearby. An indoor fireplace becomes less practicle if you have to store the wood away from the house.
Posted by: Jim Gerke at January 19, 2008 12:37 PM
Hi guys, well I was wondering if there will be a basement with the cabin. A root cellar would be great. One more thing would it be possible to add an outside shower to rinse off from the lake.
Thanks,
Eve
Posted by: Eve Schroeder at January 19, 2008 12:45 PM
Have you considered droping the great room down 2 to 4 feet. This will give it a cozy feel yet keep the openness of the floor plan and seperate it from the dining room. Additionally if the square logs are used they would blend in well as a short wall.
Posted by: Jim S at January 19, 2008 1:06 PM
I agree the modifications so far make sense. You have beautiful views of the lake from the rear deck area. Here's a thought. What about screening in the porch. I don't like mosquitoes in the evening watching the sunset with me or even in the morning with coffee.
Posted by: Earl at January 19, 2008 1:37 PM
I voted for wood burning before reading the post but the idea of having both gas and wood burning appeals to me now that I have read through them. Since there is more than one fireplace, they both do have advantages, I think Lisa's idea is great.
One thought I'd like to add is maybe the Rock Solid and Desperate Landscape guy's could get together and come up with some sort of walkway down to the lake. Decorative concrete could be used vs real stone to cut down on the expense.
Posted by: Dorin at January 19, 2008 1:40 PM
Beautiful site-great plan-and thanks to the DIY team for allowing us to be a part of this exciting project. Just a couple of thoughts:
1. Screened porches on both sides of the house would be perfect - a master bedroom retreat & an outdoor kitchen.
2. The Greatroom fireplace placed between the Foyer and the Greatroom would not only make for a separation of spaces, but would also allow for a wall of windows on the lakeside.
3. Powder room would be more useful off the rear foyer (in the open area). The area now shown as a powder room would make a nice computer area.
Posted by: Tom Oliver at January 19, 2008 1:41 PM
Hello, I didn't vote last year but I did this time.I felt like I should if I where going to
enter the contest and help make some contributions.I really love the show and my
grandaughter did to. Good luck to everyone.
Posted by: Ellen at January 19, 2008 1:44 PM
I agree with Sherry on the gas fireplace. I suffer greatly from allergies myself.
Secondly, unless all the local sources for firewood replant cut trees on a 1:1 basis, gas is definitely the better option. Salvaged/damaged timber would be a more eco-friendly source. But honestly, how many busy couples are going to go to the extra effort?
Lastly, "traditional" fireplaces are endangering our unprotected woodlands.
Posted by: Leslie Thompson at January 19, 2008 1:54 PM
OK, but a hanging outdoor lamp at the entry? Folks must be nuts! Do you all think the wind never blows? Please overrule the votes and put in sconces!
Posted by: Pat Malcolm at January 19, 2008 1:57 PM
A great addition would be a "boat garage" on the lake in a matching log-cabin style. A large dock area with oversized umbrellas and a rustic stone grill or fire pit on the lake would also be great for hosting parties and getting to know the new neighbors!
Posted by: Shea at January 19, 2008 1:57 PM
I'm really glad that Ahmed Hassan is going to host this year's blog cabin. Amy Deavers did a great job last year.
Posted by: Dolores S. Dodson at January 19, 2008 2:07 PM
I love the location and cabin style chosen. Even though it is nice to have the traditional round logs and wood fire; I would like to see more modern features added to this cabin. You could keep the traditions some but add new features too. I'm looking forward to voting throughout the process and would love to win. It's only a 2-3 hour drive from our home. What a fantastic vacation home!!!!!
Posted by: Kel at January 19, 2008 2:17 PM
If you are going for a traditional log cabin, you must go all the way. Round logs are a must! We have a log cabin and I'll tell you, once you live in one with hand cut cedar logs from the early 1900's, you'll realize that a sawn log is not the same.
For the kitchen, I suggest Monson slate. This comes from central Maine and is a very contemporary rustic chic material. There are some local guys that do wonderful work with slate sinks, contertops and then work together to custom build the cabinets (again of locally grown lumber). If you don't want to use the slate inside, the traditional use was as roofing shingles. We have some old shingles that we use as chalk boards inside which is also a nice touch.
Posted by: Jay at January 19, 2008 2:27 PM
Has any one considered a natural limb and log handrail from the loft overlook? Using bark-on limbs and logs would give a rustic feel and be "green" friendly.
Furniture could also be used to tie in to the decor.
Posted by: Paul Adams at January 19, 2008 2:27 PM
I, too, voted for the "San Jacinto" floor plan and glad to see it was voted for. Now, for the next 3 things we are voting for. First, the fireplace, I did vote for a traditional Wood fireplace but after reading some "interesting" blogs. I have changed my mind towards one of the FP's being gas. This could help w/ the enviroment, allergies, etc. Now, the second item, the "Pendant" fixture. Trust me, people, they make a pole that can help change the light bulbs, if needed, for these fixtures. Now, the last item we are voting for. I voted for the " 8inch rounds", but it looks like the "D-log" is getting the ,most votes. Again, after reading the blogs, it seems again, some of the people are right (boy, did I say that). Now, I agree with some of the add ons, like the extra stairs, putting in the large sink in the laundry room and maybe, screening in the Master Bedrooms deck. So, until next time...HAPPY BLOGGING & VOTING
Posted by: Godfrey Little at January 19, 2008 2:27 PM
Wow this is fun... can't afford to build a cabin right now but this is great training! So far I'm with the majority on the choices that have been made. I love it!
Posted by: laurie gates at January 19, 2008 2:37 PM
LOVE a log home! I'm a bit late arriving at site and voted first time after plan chosen but it was absolutely best choice. Love the lake property and view!
With such views...need to add more or larger windows to access view as much as house allows. My family is presently building a log home in TN with the mountain bluff view...we have lots of windows...fixed glass, paneless garden doors (french doors) and windows.
I voted for the flat on both sides. My new home is 8" round which we love but wanted to do something different here and have seen how great both look complete.
I also picked wood burning fireplace...nothing more fun, beautiful both in sight and sound...but, I suggest that fireplace go wood burning but be pre-installed with converter for gas down the road. When shopping for fireplace, everyone told us to do this...all say you will eventually go gas.
I also picked the hanging porch light....just to be different...why not do something everyone won't expect...choice of fixture can keep it rugged and outdoorsie and not so traditional.
Will be waiting for results...this will be fun.
Posted by: Sue at January 19, 2008 2:49 PM
I agree the laundry room should be moved to it's own "room" across the hall. Great idea for a "fishing closet", or even just a kitchen pantry!.
Up in da 'nort here in Wisconsin, an outdoor fireplace seems like a waste of precious wood (and hard labor!), how 'bout a hot tub overlooking a water feature in it's place....
I love log homes, and the 6x12 w/dovetail shows true craftsmanship that the pioneers brought with them, The "D" and round logs would be OK if the "LINCOLN LOG" ends were trimmed off flush...
Don't need any more deck area!
Posted by: Mark Dunne at January 19, 2008 3:08 PM
I agree with the suggestion for adding stairs to the back porch to have lake access. I think a really wide opening would look great. I Don't think you need any more porch since there is that wonderful outdoor "room" with the outdoor fireplace. Hopefully a cubby will be built into this fireplace for wood storage.
I also thought maybe a door to the back porch should be in the greatroom instead of the dining room. Maybe even two sets of french doors so that the great room can flow outside onto the porch for entertaining. I can see this being a wonderful area for entertaining especially with the lake at your back door!
I also agree with the suggestion to have a laundry room extension in the area across from the washer and dryer. Lots of countertop space for folding and a folding ironing board would be wonderful. Upper cabinets for storage of laundry and cleaning supplies/implements like suggested.
At least a portion of the porch needs to be screened. I agree with whoever suggested the porch area with the fireplace. Then it would be more like a sitting room for the master bedroom.
I can't wait to vote on the other choices! This is fun!
Posted by: Margo at January 19, 2008 3:22 PM
Hello! I really like the floor plan. My suggestions would be to move the washer and dryer across from where they are now in the floor plan. Not only would there be light, but also a little more room to do your folding.
I agree with the comments about stairs to the lake, you have that great view, don't create a barrier. I would extend the porch around to the front of the house so it doesn't look so blah. I have both a front porch and back deck on my house in the woods and love to sit and enjoy the different views.
I voted for the square logs. Although the others appear more rustic, I like a look that is different from what you typically think of when you think of a log cabin. I like Michelle's idea with changing the placement of the fireplace to allow for a wall of windows overlooking the lake.
This is going to be one beautiful place!
Posted by: Pam at January 19, 2008 3:27 PM
I too Say No To drywall!
FULL LOG GABLE there? I think LOG ALL THE WAY UP THE WALL (no drywall) looks amazing! Logs Inside & out..
Posted by: Tracy G. Smith at January 19, 2008 3:46 PM
Coming from a family which had 6 kids, I never understood WHY people would want to carry dirty clothes downstairs to wash and dry them, only to have to carry them all back upstairs again.
Why not make a small laundry room in the upstairs. People change their clothes in their bedrooms and bathrooms and there are more bedrooms upstairs then downstairs in this model. You could shorten the loft area for this.
Posted by: Donna H at January 19, 2008 3:49 PM
I agree on the log look, I think that the D log is best for interior asthetics though. I am from Alaska and sconce lighting is traditional to the old lighting system for a true cabin feel, along with a real log fireplace. Where is the Hot Tub?
This is exciting to be able to have a share in designing the 2008 Cabin, thanks for the opportunity.
Posted by: Mak at January 19, 2008 7:04 PM
Beautiful site, beautiful home...but...should have tried another area lake. Does anyone even know anything about watts bar? (nuclear plant, etc?)
Posted by: Janet at January 19, 2008 7:50 PM
Hi all,
A screened in porch is a must. Ceiling fans should also be installed on the porches to keep a light breeze going in the summertime.
Gas logs are my vote. Save the trees!!
I vote for the more elegant look of the square logs as opposed to the more rustic look of the others. The sqaure logs would only add to the majestic design of the San Jacinto.
Thanks for letting us vote. This is great fun!
Posted by: Sharon at January 19, 2008 8:06 PM
Why the D style logs over the 8"? I would think that the D style offer less density than the 8" round which means less of an insulation factor.
I could be way off as I have never seen the D style.
Posted by: Vince at January 19, 2008 8:30 PM
What kind of damage will winter weather do to outdoor equipment? How tough are those Tennessee winters ? How will the family transportation fare?
Is basement storage an option? I think a garage or some sort of protected carport with storage areas is a must for this cabin and I am surprised you did not include it.
D system is the best way to go on logs.
I think the fixtures should be both sconce and pendant, depending on the area.
I think a wood-burning fireplace is best use.
The porch must be screened.
Posted by: sal williams at January 19, 2008 8:40 PM
I love the floor plan choice. My 5 year old daughter has been helping me choose the different options for the cabin. She has the same taste as me it would seem! We both like the square frame though D-shape looks more popular right now. A wood fireplace is a must, nothing more natural than that. She liked the look of the pendant more than a sconce so that is what we are going with. I hope the rooms upstairs are big enough though, we have three children that "will be movin' in". We are both looking forward to more voting so keep the questions coming!
Posted by: Todd at January 19, 2008 10:45 PM
I really like the floor plan choice. I would make a few changes like bathtubs in the upstairs bathrooms. If you have small children they really can't take showers and it would be really difficult to have them use the one in the master bedroom. I would also consider switching the side the breakfast bar in the kitchen was on. To have to carry laundry all the way around it to get to the washer and dryer is a long way to go and the flow would be alot better. I like the D log as flat on the inside is easier to keep clean and makes it easier to decorate. I really like to large tub in the master bath but I would like a larger shower also, I would give up a sink for a shower. I'm also not sure about the stall style toilet. It kind of looks like you are almost in a cave, long and narrow. I hope they also plan to have the driveway on the opposite side of the house as I don't like the idea that the master bath is right there at the entrance. Hope they do some landscaping to block the view. A walk out basement would be ideal. Great place to have additional living space and or storage for the toys. I think they should also switch the fireplace deck as if you plan to use the outdoor fireplace as outdoor cooking/entertaining then it is to far from the kitchen, however if they do that then they should make the porch on the master bedroom side a little wider for a relaxing retreat. Maybe stop it at the middle mark on the current porch. Stairs off the porch to the lake, should have it on both the master bedroom and the dinning room side. I don't really think you need two doors from the dining room out onto the porch. The road view of the front of the house does not match the 1st floor plan on the entry side of the house. The road view does not show the porch rapted around with the stairs coming down. Just a note on that. I think that's enough for now. Can't wait to see what's next.
Posted by: Lee at January 19, 2008 10:52 PM
I absolutely love this show, and the San Jacinto floor plan. I only have a few suggestions, some of which I seen mentioned by others.
* I think the porch should be flipped so that the outdoor fireplace is on the dining side. This lends itself to better entertaining.
* I agree that there should be a tub upstairs. Anyone with small children will appreciate this amenity. I don't think each bedroom necessarily needs it's own bath, storage space might be more usable, that said, I also think that one of the baths should be accessible from the loft area.
Looking forward to watching the 2008 cabin unfold. Happy Blogging!
Posted by: Marian from Erie at January 20, 2008 1:34 AM
I love that the san jacinto was picked to me the wrap around porch is perfect for the lake. i can,t wait to see this come alongit will be very exciting.(especially if i won) .I live in a 20 year old mobile home right now that is falling down around my head.rolling thunder the motorcyle christian veterans club is trying to get me a habitat for humanity house right now. I hope so.who ever wins congratulations.and well deserved. i wait impatiently. thank you deb
Posted by: Deborah Ingram at January 20, 2008 2:33 AM
Wood burning fireplace is obviously going to win. If it has a gas starter, it would be easy for someone disabled and allergic like me to add the gas logs.
My family would need the loft to be closed off from the great room so we wouldn't disturb each other while relaxing in front of the televisions and working on the computer. Maybe have a window that could be closed overlooking the great room.
We would also need an upstairs tub.
At least part of the porch being screened in would be a necessity, believe me. I live close to the location and bugs are bad in the summertime.
I, too, would like to see the laundry area a little different, but wouldn't want to lose that great pantry. Combining the laundry area and the back foyer would work great for me, just enter through the laundry. I would like to see a door separating the area from the kitchen, though.
I've never seen a more beautiful lake front property. This blog cabin is turning into a dream home.
Posted by: Kdoodle at January 20, 2008 3:57 AM
We presently have a gas fireplace in our home, however it can be converted to woodburning very easily if we would change our minds. As an older person that is unable to cut wood, stack it, carry it in and then clean the fireplace, I would perfer the fireplace that can be converted either way. Please consider this possibility
Posted by: Vicki at January 20, 2008 5:26 AM
Hi,
We voted for the D logs, woodburning fireplace and the sconce. We currently have one of the hanging lights and it is very difficult to climb up a ladder to change the bulb. Just our opinion.
Posted by: Priscilla at January 20, 2008 6:50 AM
I think the washer & dryer, and the prowder room should be switched and the door to the laundry room in the closet.I think a view in the laundry room would be a waste, you don't spend that much time switching laundry.A screen in porch would be nice.They make retrackable screen that would be nice so you don't always have to look through it but it there when you would like to be out and bug free.Ceiling fans in that area would be nice also. A walk basement with french doors would be nice also.On the second floor instead of open space an great thing to have would be another room, with lots of window to see the beautiful veiw. The master bath move the toilet in to the right of the door and make the shower a larger one. Thanks for reading, Happy buiding !!!!!!!!
Gen
Posted by: Gennie at January 20, 2008 7:11 AM
Yes, I'm having a ball! Haven't had this much fun since last year's Blog Cabin. Agree on a nice, wide set of stairs to lake. Also, just realized that none of those wonderful, gracious porches are screened. You just must screen the entire MBR side with that lovely wide outdoor room w/little gaming ell and fireplace! Can see all ages staying up late with their various activities going, enjoying lake breezes sans biting bugs. Heaven!
This could also become a sleeping porch with the right furniture. Same for the loft. Can see tons of kids in sleeping bags having a slumber party up there. That terrific little room across from laundry shouldn't be wasted. It would be great for thoughtful, built-in desk, motor home-style bunk bed, computer and charging station for those who just cannot leave the office behind.
And don't forget, an island that seats two at the end would be lots more fun (and more current) than a peninsula that seats four.
Oh, this is fun!
Posted by: Connie at January 20, 2008 8:04 AM
Hi Bloggers~
There are so many great suggestions out there! Here's mine... I've been reading a lot of blogs for the powder room to be moved to the little room off the kitchen...BAD idea!! As for the need of a shower... GOOD idea!! Or can you put an outdoors shower right by the rear door? That might help out with dirt control. Some folks love to take showers outdoors... depends on the temp. for me.
As for that little room... I love the idea of that being the laundry room and/or a computer nook. Then the closet where the w/d are now can become the food pantry.
I do have a question???????? What is in the corner of the master bedroom? That's not a fireplace is it?
Posted by: Cindy from NJ at January 20, 2008 8:05 AM
oops. michelle suggested the centralized fireplace, not whawkins.
Posted by: Trista at January 20, 2008 8:18 AM
DIY your GREAT! I am so excited about this years Cabin and reading everyones input. I just have one suggestion for next years SPOT, how about Table Rock Lake located by Branson, Missouri!!! Not only a beautiful scenic setting but lots of Entertainment near by! Love you guys!!! Thanks for chance of a DREAM.
Posted by: Linda Gaye Cooper at January 20, 2008 8:35 AM
Hello
Love Amy on the 2007 show.
My wish for the 2008 Blog cabin is;
I know this is a big wish but being a
car guy I'd like to see a full basement
with a garage door access on one side
and walkout in the back. So I could
make an ultimate man cave downstairs.
Now that would be awesome.
Thanks Richard
Posted by: Richard Medynski at January 20, 2008 9:52 AM
I have to add that I LIKE the placement of the W/D because I'd plan on me and the boys getting pretty dirty and wet. Maybe the cherrier side of laundry could be fixed by an upstairs pass down in the closet. That way one only walks up the steps with clean laundry which would be much less likely to "take a trip." The exercise of that would do me good.
I think it would be unthinkable to put gas logs in the fireplace. We've had both and gas logs while less messy do not provide the warmth or sensations that real wood burning does. This fireplace is for pleasure so why not get the scent and crackle to entice all the senses.
Posted by: Debi at January 20, 2008 10:11 AM
Hi: Just a couple of quick comments for the new cabin site. I hope there will be a dock of some sort for fishing and for a boat to tie up. I would also recommend an area to store fishing gear, etc. Maybe an outdoor kitchen to enjoy the scenery and the catch of the day! Love the area.
Posted by: Mamie Brown at January 20, 2008 10:22 AM
This is my first time to vote in the Blog Cabin. Now, while I'm not much of a construction person, there are things I DO understand. I would like to suggest, for future voting, that you include a full description of the items we are voting on and possibly include the pros and cons of each item...or why each item was chosen for our vote. I don't know much about the logs being used so I'm just voting for the ones I think would look the best.
I love the site you picked this time around!
Posted by: Marla at January 20, 2008 10:50 AM
I would move the washer/dryer to the room opposite to where it is currently located with the addition of the folding/ironing feature. Then where the washer/dryer is currently located a pantry could be created in that space.
I would like to see a large staircase come down from the greatroom doors which would give an unobstructed view once the railing is removed. In addition a smaller staircase off the master bedroom/fireplace area.
Posted by: Helen at January 20, 2008 11:01 AM
Our house is 8" D logs, and while I much prefer these to round, I really wish we had the square logs. The rounded exterior provides nooks for wasps to build nests, and cobwebs to accumulate, so there is a lot of exterior chores I hadn't anticipated with the D logs. Also, I really like the visual appeal of the notched ends of the square logs. I love the floor plan. My wishes include: gas logs inside, as I have allergies; woodburning outside; screened or glassed porch; metal roof; stone foundation and fireplaces; walkout basement for playroom, storage, exercise equipment; garage or carport; stamped and dyed concrete driveway and walks; skylights and solar tubes; windows in loft; solar and/or wind power; on-demand hot water heaters; and a chairlift or elevator to the second floor. I do not like huge garden tubs, as they are difficult to get in and out of, and are hard to clean; I would much prefer a large shower and a small whirlpool tub.
Posted by: Connie Joyce at January 20, 2008 11:28 AM
This is my first time I blogged ever but I thought I'd like to express my opinion on this wonderful cabin. I believe everyone would have to agree that a multifunctional fireplace would be advantageous to everyone. There are so many people now that have allergy's and can't tolerate an indoor woodburning fireplace. I love the idea of pressing a remote control and turning on the fire instead of lugging in wood and cleaning it out afterwards. The fireplace outside would be okay for burning wood because it would be easier to clean and closer to the woodpile. I also agree that the outside fireplace should be moved to the otherside and convenient to the kitchen so you can get your beverages and hot dogs to roast over the fire. If you move the outside fireplace then I would like to see the master bedroom porch screened in with a combination fan and light on the ceiling. This would be a romantic getaway or just a great place to have coffee and read the paper or a book in the morning or any time. No matter how the plans progress I do believe that there should be a rear access to the lake and to the woodpile. It would also be nice to have a firepit in the yard for large groups of friends to sit around and enjoy the view.
Posted by: Karen at January 20, 2008 12:31 PM
Hey there! I am for the 8" round for the better look and feel of a true Log Cabin. On the fireplace choice I like the idea of gas on the inside do to the concerns with allergies but, there is a second fireplace on the porch which I think would be perfect for a traditional Wood fireplace.
just my 2 cents.
Posted by: William B at January 20, 2008 1:28 PM
Wood burning fireplace vs LPG Propane
With such a wonderful sight for the cabin it would be a shame to not go GAS. The pollution from wood is no longer an option many places and a number have banned wood burning. To build such a great and wonderful cabin and possibly face such a ban would be a tragedy. I strongly would recommend gas as the answer. Outside fire rings or fireplaces would be an option and not impact the ambience inside the cabin. It is time to be thinking green and looking ahead to the future.
Posted by: Jo Barfuss at January 20, 2008 2:09 PM
I have voted for the 8" round logs, (even though it appears that many prefer the D-Logs), I think the 8" make it more like a real traditional log cabin feel. It's that the purpose of having a "log cabin" in the woods..
I also voted for the sconce lighting, becuase what logcaing do you go to the have thatrustic look that have hanging lights? come on guys.. it usually on the side of the door. has any ome ever whatch national Lanpoons vaction?? lol.. no it would be easy t clean and change the light bulbs though..
The fireplace should be wood buring but it should have a gas pilot too.. lol. But for the fire place too they should make it larger and round, possibly a larger than normal size to help heat the room and also a larger fireplace egde or ledging.. sorry not to sure whats its called but is should be some what larger too since you want it to be more of a cozy feeling with massive heat to help warm.
In regards to leaving the washer and dryer as they are and the folding room and storage in the adjacent room. that would be great.. I would love to have more room for the laundry room..
I would love to have place to fold and iron clothes.
I would love to live in a home with tons of windows so you can take in the veiw every morning when you wake up and every night when you want to snuggle up with your husband or kids in front of the fireplace. Plus it helps with alloot of natural light which you want throught out the whole log cabin.
Posted by: candice at January 20, 2008 2:19 PM
I'm so excited to vote and dream of having this as our "dream cabin"...
I love that the wood burning fire place is ahead in the votes!! There is nothing like a real wood burning fire!
Posted by: Leslie at January 20, 2008 2:22 PM
I agree with the idea to open one (or both) of the upstairs bathrooms to the loft area.
Change the powder room from one with an angled wall to a regular shaped room, move the door to the great room side, and put the vanity on the wall adjoining the foyer.
Posted by: Sherri at January 20, 2008 2:31 PM
How about a custom built-in interior waterfall feature installed on the right wall just inside the front door? Would want it to look as if it's designed into the original plan--not something just stuck on the wall. Think it would be a neat, dramatic reference to the waterfront location.
Posted by: kim at January 20, 2008 2:31 PM
I have voted for the 8" round logs, (even though it appears that many prefer the D-Logs), I think the 8" make it more like a real traditional log cabin feel. It's that the purpose of having a "log cabin" in the woods..
I also voted for the sconce lighting, becuase what logcaing do you go to the have thatrustic look that have hanging lights? come on guys.. it usually on the side of the door. has any ome ever whatch national Lanpoons vaction?? lol.. no it would be easy t clean and change the light bulbs though..
The fireplace should be wood buring but it should have a gas pilot too.. lol. But for the fire place too they should make it larger and round, possibly a larger than normal size to help heat the room and also a larger fireplace egde or ledging.. sorry not to sure whats its called but is should be some what larger too since you want it to be more of a cozy feeling with massive heat to help warm.
In regards to leaving the washer and dryer as they are and the folding room and storage in the adjacent room. that would be great.. I would love to have more room for the laundry room..
I would love to have place to fold and iron clothes.
I would love to live in a home with tons of windows so you can take in the veiw every morning when you wake up and every night when you want to snuggle up with your husband or kids in front of the fireplace. Plus it helps with alloot of natural light which you want throught out the whole log cabin.
Posted by: candice at January 20, 2008 2:31 PM
Loved watching the Blog Cabin 2007, and would love to get into the 2008 Blog Cabin. I work on a crew that builds Log Cabins over in Maggie Valley, NC, and there is so many different little things that can be done to make them unique and different from the rest...Like we do a Speciality like Mountain Laruel twigg hand rail pickets... that is a side speciality of our crew besides stacking the logs.
So my question is where can I get in on the voting, and enter for the give away to the 2008 cabin, and would the twigg hand rail be something that you might like to add to this cabin as a special vote or blog ?
thanks John Beal
Posted by: John Beal at January 20, 2008 2:36 PM
D.I.Y
I am new to this blog cabin website and have been watching the show for the last couple of weeks. I missed out on the voting of the floor plan and glad the public chose the one they did. Looking at the floor plan, the enclosed area off the master bedroom should have a set of French doors between the two rooms. There should have been a third option as far as the fireplace goes. Did anyone consider a pellet stove?
Tim
Posted by: tim at January 20, 2008 2:43 PM
How about some type of boathouse or general peir/dock..for the sportsman!
You have picked a great location with a fantastic floor plan. I have enjoyed watching the 2007 blog cabin series and am excited about 2008 and offering my suggestions!
Posted by: Lee at January 20, 2008 2:46 PM
On the front elevation, it is such a balanced, symmetrical house, that the small window to the right, in the rear foyer (a bit confusing being on the front of the house) should have the arch window above it as well. I realize if the arch window won't fit in an 8' ceiling height, this could mean putting in a cathedral ceiling as well, but for symmetry it should be installed. If it was my house, I would gladly pay the additional cost to install the vaulted ceiling or even a "light box" to clear the window. Again the structure of the main part of the cabin is so symmetrical, any deviation is very noticeable, so the symmetry needs to be carried through completely.
Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2008 2:49 PM
Beautiful lot and lakefront site is such a plus. I look forward to tracking the progress.
Posted by: Mary at January 20, 2008 3:31 PM
Hello...I live in a 2.5 square mile log cabin community with over 120 log cabin homes, but I am one of the few none log cabin owners. It's very hard to purchase a log cabin in this town because of costs and availability. The few that were for sale when we looked at buying made my husband and I feel very overwhelmed with home repairs,and enclosed because they were the older syle log cabins, which were very dark and chopped up. We want kids and the little tiny log cabins were not feasible so we comprimised and live in a rancher in the log cabin community.
The winning floor plan is a great one, especially with the front porch. One change is crucial for additional room and shading; the two top decks should meet and go across the back of the house to make one deck across the back of the house with large door openings out of not only the two bedrooms but the loft and the two bathrooms as well. Move the bathrooms to the ends of the house and that will open up more closet space as well, and then a laundry shoot could be added. One feature that is nice in an upstairs log cabin is a wrap around walk way so the stairs could be moved if room is ample.
Thanks for reading!
Min and Eric
Posted by: Mindalaa at January 20, 2008 3:54 PM
An addendum to my previous suggestion for an interior waterfall just inside front door to the right--is it possible to create a recess in the wall in which to install this, thereby creating that custom built in look? Would love to see hammered copper (sealed to prevent the green patina),and/or other rustic metal tones, or other natural materials such as river rock/pebbles/slate/even granite incorporated in the design. Also, how about a metal sculpture in shallow 3-D to be mounted above the fireplace or on another wall creating another focal point? Perhaps this could be created by a local artist, and include references to native foliage. If stone is chosen for the fireplace, how about repeating the same material, for the base of the kitchen bar, for example.
Posted by: kim at January 20, 2008 4:04 PM
I think there should be a parking space for my rv.when i win this one.i loved 2007 blog cabin and i belive this one will be just as nice.would love to win it.any chance for a retired vetran to win. thanks douglas walker usaf ret.
Posted by: DOUGLAS W at January 20, 2008 5:06 PM
I'm glad the D-logs were chosen. The round logs (while they are more "traditional") are much more difficult. If you have ever lived in a log home (I have), you know that they accumulate dust and are difficult to keep clean. My (former) log home had the D-logs and it was much easier than my friend's round log style log cabin. She used to complain about it all the time.
Posted by: Lisa at January 20, 2008 5:16 PM
If you move the washer and dryer, consider making the previous area a pantry.
I like the fireplace where it is in the plans. The fireplace is the focal point of the room with views of the lake on either side.
Also, consider flipping the deck area by having the large deck area with fireplace which is suitable for outdoor dining and entertaining off the dining room rather than off the master bedroom.
Posted by: Carole Lawrence at January 20, 2008 5:21 PM
I voted for the round logs. Mainly because as a graduate of an 8 week log house building course I am more of a traditionalist. Each time you cut a log you invite problems with moisture and infestations. Especially if you are exposing more endgrain. This also translates to less maintenance and a MUCH stronger house.
Besides, I can really appreciate the traditional look of a log home. After all, it IS a log home and not a "thick cut wood" home *grin*
Posted by: Bill at January 20, 2008 6:10 PM
I think the plans look awesome. I voted for the square logs since I think it gives is a more modern look. What a site you have picked for this new project! Definitely looks like MY dream home.....Jeanne
Posted by: Jeanne at January 20, 2008 6:46 PM
I'd like to suggest a wood-burning stove for the cabin. They are cast iron and burn so efficiently that ash is reduced to a matter of spoonfuls! The company is called JOTUL (with a slash through the "o"), originally a Norwegian company, their product is produced in Gorham, Maine for the US market.The stoves are really beautiful, come in variety of colors and they also produce gas stoves. My vote is for wood. These stoves throw out tremendous heat - we had them in our New England homes when I was a child, and we will have one in our TN cottage which we are about to begin construction on.
Posted by: Sheila at January 20, 2008 7:25 PM
love the voting on the cabin. hate the delay till building begins.
Posted by: Peggy at January 20, 2008 8:19 PM
Hello DIY!!!!
This is my first time voting for the Blog Cabin. My Husband and I watched Blog Cabin 2007 and absolutely LOVED it. Yall sure did a great job. I know the winner's will enjoy it for years to come. So far what I have seen with the 2008 Blog Cabin is looking great. Its starting with a great floorplan.
I chose the gas fireplace because it is much easier to maintain. I had a wood fireplace and it was great when the fire was going, but I hated the cleanup. Also, it adds more to housework when you have to wipe down all the pictures to keep them clean. Who really wants or enjoys extra housework?
I can't wait to see what's coming next? Keep up the great work!
Tina
Posted by: Tina Hartfield at January 20, 2008 8:27 PM
Hello,
I think the floor plan is perfect. The one thing that is needed in a lake cabin is a porch swing. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Posted by: Jenny at January 20, 2008 8:46 PM
hi, I loved the first blog cabin and I think this one will be even better. The biggest suggestion I think I can make in regards to this cabin is solar panels. I know that DIY is trying to make this cabin as green as possible and I think that the addition of some solar panels will definitely aid in that. I do not understand why solar panels were not used in the first blog cabin, but I think they should definitely be used in this one.
Posted by: dave at January 20, 2008 9:07 PM
Hi,
Most definitely need to rethink the washer/dryer, rear foyer and room behind the kitchen.
Design it with the obvious in mind for a mud room off the rear foyer with the larger area being for wash duties with a window out and maybe a shower for those who come in from fishing(or is it too small?) Storage and a window seat on the rear foyer would be good too. Just thoughts.
The kitchen seems a bit off also, with the stove up against the wall and blocked off with the bar/eating area.
Posted by: Lori Smith at January 20, 2008 9:53 PM
Those of us that do the family laundry know that we need more than the space given for the washer/dryer in this floor plan. Please, place them across the hall in the room with the outside window so there is room to sort the clothes without people tripping over them! I've seen that no one has shared the thought for making that space where the washer/dryer are in the floor plan into a well needed kitchen pantry! If there is a possibility of a basement being put in, that would make so much more room available for extra storage plus a great place for all the fishing gear. Any Ideas on where a guest room could be worked in???
Posted by: Carol at January 20, 2008 10:38 PM
I also voted for the round logs for the cabin. It would give it that old time log cabin look inside that we all would like to see.
Posted by: Scott at January 20, 2008 11:20 PM
First, how csn you tell if your commments or questions are posted/approved without scrolling through all of them? Somedays, especially those when the chemo gets the best of me, I can't sit in this chair for long. However, I would like to know if my input is accepted because this cabin is very important to me. It's become a part of me and is one of the only hobbies I have right now. The last cabin was great, and I am so happy for the lovely family that won it. I just hope they can get in/out of their driveway! I recommended the exact type of lakefront property you selected, based on the cabin my parents owned when I was younger until their death. I loved the winters there as much as the summers, because of the quiet and the wildlife and birds and fireplace - it was so cozy and warm and we had so much fun and peace there. I hope my family will have those advantages at this cabin, but if not us then whoever wins I hope has years of joy and pleasure! Thank you!!! Sara Jane
Posted by: Sara Jane at January 20, 2008 11:24 PM
Looking forward to watching this come together in 2008. Thanks for allowing our participation!
One thing that stood out to me in the floor plan is a lack of a dedicated home office space. Maybe the loft area could be modified for that, if this is to have any potential beyond a vacation home. Of course, if that's all that is envisioned, then it's a moot point.
Ceiling fans on the covered porch are a nice touch in sultry Southern summers.
Windows above the existing doors/windows in the great room, would really open it up to the outside and make for a more expansive feel, not to mention a better view.
What are the plans for low voltage structured wiring for telephones, data, satv, etc.? A home of this quality should have it. I know it'd be something that I'd expect to see, were I considering a home purchase of this nature.
Again, thanks for letting me add my two cents worth.
Posted by: John at January 20, 2008 11:52 PM
Hi DIY Friends,
I'm so happy to be involved in the plannng of the 2008 Blog cabin. I'd love to see the square logs used on this plan but can visualize it with any of the choices. I love this floorplan!
I currently have a wood burning fireplace and love it but if I were to build again, I would change to a gas burning indoors because they are cleaner and easier to use. I'd have my woodburning fireplace in an outdoor area.
On the laundry area, I hate to see it moved across the hall since I feel the small room is perfect for much needed coat/shoe/toy storage, pantry needs and a small freezer. Perhaps a counter for folding clothes could be placed under the window to please those that want one.
I agree that it is essential to have either a garage or carport in TN. If one is not in the plans it would be nice if the home placement allows enough room on the lot to have one added by it's new owner.
Can't wait to hear more about this years cabin!
Smiles...Kathy
Posted by: Kathy at January 20, 2008 11:58 PM
I just can't wait to see how the cabin starts to look as it is being built. I also voted for the San Jacinto style. I wish that the sconces would win for the ease of changing of the the light bulb, but if the hanging pendant does win if they could find a fixture where you do not have to put the bulb in through the top. If it could be through the bottom, this way it would be a little easier to change the bulb.
Also as many have mentioned, I think that there should be a gas fireplace indoors and a wood one outdoors. This way you are pleasing everyone.
Posted by: Judi at January 21, 2008 12:16 AM
I am so glad to see that some of you are reading the blogs & listening to what others are saying. I'm glad to see that some of you agree that the square logs are actually what you will find in the Cove, that it makes for a cleaner interior and truthfully the exterior as well. We have gas in our place & it just isn't the same as wood burning. I think that most of the suggestions are great & I'm sure that DIY is taking notes. After all, many great minds coming together make for a fantastic place. Someone (hopefully me) will have a special place that was built withlots of fun & love! Let's keep this a fun place to go daily! Keep voting, even if you change your mind on something because of something someone has said.
Ninette
Posted by: Ninette at January 21, 2008 5:33 AM
What a beautiful location! I love the porch and am so glad that floor plan won. Its exciting to watch as the design unfolds. Good luck to everyone.
Posted by: Sharon at January 21, 2008 6:43 AM
To all voting. Please keep in mind on fireplace choice. Gas logs, no clean up, no chimney to keep clear. Vent-less logs give 99.9% heat in the home. Wood burning fireplace has constant clean up and your heat, up and out the chimney it goes.
Posted by: Wanda at January 21, 2008 8:36 AM
Hey Blog Cabin I am all for the adjustments that you have suggested for the cabin but I agree that a Tub upstairs is not a good idea a shower is better since most Americans would rather take a shower instead of a bath. Also I placed a comment a few days ago and it is not posted Why? I do believe the location is beautiful and the floor plan is a good one too I like it better than the rest. I would love to win this . Thank you for listening to our comments in what we want in the cabin BRAVO to all of you at DIY and BLOG Cabin
Posted by: Vicki Dotson from Ohio at January 21, 2008 8:38 AM
Hello,
In the last project (Blog Cabin 2007), the landscape limited what could be done in the way of construction. I think that in this new project the land is more accessible, and easier to manupulate si I came up with a great idea!
I was using the 360 degree view option on your website, admiring the view of the water and then it hit me. Why not install a dock to take advantage of the water for recreation. I'm sure the fishing must be phenominal on that lake, and while we're at it, we should look into a couple of jet skis, a speed boat (for water skiing), or a nice Bass boat, fully loaded with gear to complete the ensemble (hey, it doesn't hurt to dream).
DIY - Thank you for the opportunity to dream.
Regards,
Cesar Landestoy
Posted by: Cesar Landestoy at January 21, 2008 8:38 AM
If you move the washer&dryer to the small room across from where they currently are located please add a wash sink and possibly a toilet in that room. That would provide a good mud room and an almost outside bathroom for bad weather days.
Wood fireplace, nice ambiance, but loads of work and certainly more destructive to the environment.
Sconce light is easier to maintain and would not be a worry when the wind gets blowing and moving things around.
Posted by: Frank at January 21, 2008 8:53 AM
I am new to this blog (as a blogger and Blog Cabin) but I am watching this project like a hawk. I am sitting on top of a pile of logs (enough for 24' by 48' log cabin) and looking for ideas and know-how to put our dream cabin together. The location chosen is awesome and the floor plan is definitely a winner. I voted for the D logs because that is what I have, but I would like to see an unfinished D log, (no grooves and/or machining), but I understand that it would be more time consuming. Maybe I'll use my logs to build a garage/shop after I win this one!!!
Posted by: Jean-Pierre Plante at January 21, 2008 9:26 AM
I want to second Brenda Oratons suggestion:
HOW ABOUT AN ELEVATOR!
I voted for the D Logs for two reasons. Easier to hang cabinets, etc on the flat serface and the 8" round on the inside would collect dust.
Posted by: KE Wilcox at January 21, 2008 9:28 AM
I'm a little torn on the current vote. On all wrap around areas sconces should be used and a large outdoor chandelier by the fireplace.
How about a screen option in the outdoor gathering area? Don’t they make large screen wall that roll up to the ceiling and allow the area to be open when wanted?
Let’s move the washer and dryer across the hall into the larger room for a folding area, storage and sink. Remove the short wall where the washer and dryer were located and install full height slide out pantries.
Great room needs upper windows. Need some porch entrances on the rear.
Posted by: Thomas Childress at January 21, 2008 9:53 AM
I love the whole idea of the new cabin, but you need to make sure that the wood fireplace is set up to also help heat the entire house.
Posted by: Karen Eggers at January 21, 2008 10:18 AM
I just voted but wasn't asked to sign in so I'm wondering how I will be entered. Also, I would love to see a "dog playroom" added. My daughter owns a gorgeous, secluded piece of lakefront land in Maine and (when I win the lottery!) I would love to build a vacation home the family can enjoy for generations to come. The challenge we always have is the dogs in the family. One has separation anxiety and one is a chewer, but both are very loved and important family members. I would love to see a room designed that would allow the pets a comfortable, indestructible place to stay while we are out and about for a few hours at a time. If it had a doggie door that opened to a nice looking fenced in area, that would be perfect!
Posted by: Cynthia at January 21, 2008 10:44 AM
It would seem to me that since the deck behind the great room is not covered and doing so would take a fairly dramatic change, screening the portion behind the dining area around to just past the side dining room door would provide a very useable screened in area without degrading the view from the great room. Just the area from the fireplace to the side of the deck past the dining area looks to be about 8' x 20' which is a pretty nice sized area. Having some open (uncovered) deck isn't such a bad thing and it maintains the lines of the rear of the house and besides, the cover would darken the great room. The evening sun will be toward the front right of the house, so the uncovered portion of the deck area will get shade from the high gable anyway in the afternoon. The deck with fireplace could be on either side, but if there was ever a garage option, it would most certainly need to be on the kitchen side nearest the rear foyer. If the large deck were on the kitchen side, the garage placement could be a problem. Some interesting ideas from all of the bloggers for the designers to consider. I personally would leave the kitchen/laundry/pantry area the same. If the washer/dryer is moved into the pantry area, it pretty much eliminates personal preference on how to use that room. At my house, we don't stand in front of the washer/dryer long enough for a window to make a difference. If the owner wants to use the pantry room for folding, it's just a step away, and for that, having the window would be nice. Having that space for a multi-purpose area would be nice and having the washer and dryer in there would cut down the possibilities. As for the log style, I like the square just for the uniqueness if nothing else. I thought the hand-hewed logs on the 2007 Blog Cabin were very good looking and I see the provider for the 2008 cabin offers the same style although not shown on the choices given to vote on. The D-log option isn't a bad compromise I suppose. Pendant light vs. sconce, not a biggie. Stabilizing a pendant is easy enough and it's not going to be so high that changing a light bulb every 5 or 6 years is a major consideration in my opinion. Gas fireplace vs. wood burning, gas is certainly more practical, but there is something about a wood burner that fits this setting. I've had both having gas now. I miss the wood burner.
Posted by: Doug at January 21, 2008 10:57 AM
I would like to see the powder room moved out by the rear foyer so when you are outside and need to use the bathroom you don't have to go all through the house, especially if shoes or feet are sandy or muddy. I would also like to see just one bathroom upstairs. I don't know about everyone else, but cleaning toilets is not my favorite job, and 3 would be plenty.
Posted by: Cathy at January 21, 2008 10:58 AM
My vote is for the gas fireplace inside the house. This community will probably not allow you to cut trees so you will have to buy the firewood and haul it in. Also you have to bring it in the front door or through the dining room. Seems messy to me. I like the wall sconces for the porch so they won't be blowing in the wind. I also like the suggestion of a secure room below grade for storms and such. I can't get DIY on my cable so can only rely on the web site for my information.
Posted by: Nancy at January 21, 2008 11:28 AM
The cabin really looks great from the plans. Although it was not really mentioned, will it be wired for electronic gear...cable/internet/sat? 8" logs really do look better!
Posted by: Vince at January 21, 2008 11:55 AM
Amy/Ahmed,
I was looking at the dining room area this morning and noticed that the blueprints are calling out for French doors (2 sets). This feature makes this room a formal room yet there is an "L" shape coming out from the kitchen that has four chairs for informal eating.
This is a home on a lake, I would want the setting as warm, friendly, and informal as possible, and with the fact that formal dining rooms are going the way of the dinosaur, (people seldom use them anymore) if I were building this home to live in, I would have Pella sliders with the build in blinds sandwiched in between the glass panels, instead of the French doors. Do away with the “L” shape thing and build a center island that project’s from the kitchen into the dining room. This would then make it a place of common ground for both daily use, and also for a little informal gathering’s. It would think it would help the person working in the kitchen feel part of whatever was going on.
The formality of the dining room is already gone by connecting it to the Great room (living room) without walls, and having seating for the kitchen (informal) in the dining room so why not take it to the next step.
I noticed on the blueprints it looks like wasted space between the toilet in the master bath and the powder room, could that space be used as a linen closet on one side, and a additional coat or misc. closet opening to the foyer on the other, or is that the utility area?
Are you planning on using the space under the stairs leading up to the second floor, there is a closet there but why not use that space under the stairs for storage as well with a trap door in the closet or something of that nature. I don’t see a garage so storage will be at a premium.
Amy, I agree with you after seeing the Jan. 20 show that the twins did a great job in support of building the cabin, everyone did. It turned out great, I kind of felt the way you did when you and the twins closed and locked the door for the last time before it was given to the (winning) new family, mixed emotions of joy in the outcome, and yet sadness it was over…….Keep up the great job.
Bob
Posted by: Robert at January 21, 2008 12:25 PM
a sock is a must with this beautiful lake calling you out to enjoy it. several other of the bloggers have great ideas, but what about and old fashioned tool shed that looks like the log cabin.
thanks
terry
phoenix, ny
Posted by: terry checksfield at January 21, 2008 12:31 PM
I'm new to this blog also but just loved last years log home.
I have noticed a few viewers think screening in the porch is a good idea. I agree. What would be great is to use the retractable screens. They can be custom made for any area.
I also think we need a larger view out the master bed room. It would be nice to be able to see the fireplace on the porch.
Posted by: Sunny at January 21, 2008 12:43 PM
Hi, Thanks to DIY for another blog cabin and the chance for day dreams of what could be!
Fantastic floor plan choices, but the San Jacinto stood high above the rest...I'm pleased that it made the cut.
I went with the square logs, because in visits to that area of the country, I believe that to be in tradition with what was built years ago.
Although I agree that a certain amount of charm would be lost to selection of a gas fireplace over that of an authentic wood burning model, the benefits and cleanliness of gas would probably be the best choice for the inside one, at least.
I also went with the pendant fixture because with the windows flanking the entry door I felt that it would busy up the wallspaces, not to mention the sconces would be obscured by the entry porch posts.
I agree that steps off of the porch would be a fantastic addition, as well as partial, if not full screening of the porch, as with summer bugs, a necessity.
Thanks again for the opportunity, and I'll be looking forward to further voting choices!
Posted by: Steve at January 21, 2008 12:47 PM
Can the porch and outdoor fireplace be built on the other side of the house next to the kitchen? It makes a lot more sense when entertaining or dining on the porch. I live close to the last Blog cabin and was able to see it. It was not built exactly like the floorplan.
I also live about an hour and a half from the lake Blog cabin. I have family that live on the lake in Spring City about 10 minutes from the cabin. It would be wonderful to win this cabin to be able to have big family gatherings with plenty of places to sleep. We'll see.
Posted by: Mary at January 21, 2008 1:58 PM
For 36 years, my husband and I have toyed with the idea of finally retiring into a log home. We've studied floor plans by the hundreds, but a severe head-on car crash put our dream on hold for the last year. When we saw the plans for Blog Cabin 2008, we were so impressed, there is nothing we would change about it, and were so pleased tha D logs were chosen. Honey-toned logs with a green roof and trim....ahhh.
Posted by: Joyce Jones at January 21, 2008 1:59 PM
Two big changes needed to the floor plan.1) Master bedroom is too small. Room has doors on three walls and windows on the other. In a 13x13 room it would be very difficult to place furniture. House could be expanded about 4' to the rear and side to improve the overall room of the bedroom and the house.2) The washer and dryer are in a bad spot. Ever try to cook in a 9x14 kitchen? This entire area and the room across from it should be utilized as kitchen space and pantry. Wash room can go to the rear foyer or upstairs.
Posted by: Clyde at January 21, 2008 2:46 PM
I picked The San Jacinto because of the three plans it seemed to have most of what I would like in a log home. I especially liked the porch wrapping around the homes exterior. But I do think that it should extend over the french doors at the rear of the home.I also like the rear foyer entrance. Having 4 dogs and living near a lake, I thought that would be a great place for a mud room.
Posted by: Suzy Davis at January 21, 2008 2:51 PM
So far so good,
I went with the wood burning fireplace the smell of wood burning and the crackling sound are too romantic and soothing to be replaced by gas, and the 8" round for the siding is all about cozy tradition but for a touch of class the pendant light. The only other thing I could ask for at this point is for me to be living there and helping build this beautiful dream home.
keep up the great work!
Posted by: Jennifer at January 21, 2008 2:53 PM
Love the floor plan, but would like to see a front porch of some kind. this will likely be a 'front porch' community, so that would be useful. I like the idea of stretching the back porch and stairs down to the lake side. Not sure we saw provisions for a garage, but there should be some sort of cover for cars. Snow does occur on occasion, and it rains for sure, so a covered path from the car to the house would really be a help. Maybe a circular driveway with a portico?
Posted by: Joe and Karen Lahnstein at January 21, 2008 3:08 PM
I like the San Jacinto, except the location of the kitchen, but a person can live with that. Keep the W/D where they are and have a pantry or storage room. Is there going to be a garage for the car and the boat? Would be nice. I voted on the wood burning FP, but Gas would be nice with a grate for burning wood.....now for the Master....you need double doors out onto the patio.....that would be a lot nicer. And stairs from upstairs to outside would be great!! I voted on the D logs, not an expert on that, though. I really would not mind what you use. The location is the WINNER.........and anything would work, huh? More windows most definitely!!!! You want to be able to hear and see the water from everywhere!!! This is so much fun......thanks DIY for giving us this opportunity once again!!!!! I also voted on the Sconce.....the other is just not rustic enough!!!!
Posted by: Brenda D. Warner at January 21, 2008 3:09 PM
I voted for the 8" round logs, but now I am second guessing my choice after reading seveal posts concerning the D-logs being easier to clean. Hadn't really thought about that. I too would like to see the outside porch/fireplace on the kithcen side. Much easier for entertaining. Screening in the porch would also be a nice touch due to battling pesty mosquitos. Perhaps a dock could be added...what's a lakefront property without a dock?
Posted by: Nancy W at January 21, 2008 3:19 PM
Hi Watson,
My first time blogging.
I love the cabin style and it's location.
I love to read about everyones ideas. There are some good ones out there and I hope some are considered.
Here are my suggestions:
~move the porch with the fireplace off the dinning room and screen it in.
~put skylights in the kitchen and upstairs bathrooms.
~remove the peninsula from the kitchen area.
~put in steps to the lake off the back porch.
~french doors in the great room would be nice.
~a large window in the master bedroom instead of the small ones.
~windows on each side of the fireplace for more lighting and a view from the loft.
I am also curious about the closet space in the upstairs bedrooms. Why 4?
It would be nice to be able to put the beds where you could wake up and see the lake.
I wish everyone goodluck and GOD bless you all.
Posted by: Sheila at January 21, 2008 4:14 PM
A walk out basement would be great! This would clear up the storage issues from the 2007 blog cabin. It would be great to come in from the outdoors and not dirty up the house, just come straight into the basement. Perhaps a utility sink also in there to wash up and a nice bench to sit on to get your shoes on/off ---and more storage!! Thanks for the oppurtunity!
Posted by: Carrisa at January 21, 2008 4:34 PM
I love the floorplan and layout, expcept the upstairs bedroom being above the master. Is it possible to reaarange this or is the floorplan pretty set for the second floor?
Posted by: AJ at January 21, 2008 4:39 PM
in wooded lake aeas there are a lot of bugs and varmits. so easier to clean logs are important. gas is more expensive but cleaner and for a 2 story house prob better esp who gets to clean out that chimney. sconce or pendant i like sconce easier to clean and change bulbs, but also like motion lites esp by front door. we changed all our lites [front of house] to motion lites much safer to negotiate steps and uneven ground.
Posted by: colleen at January 21, 2008 4:48 PM
I'm so glad that the San Jacinto floor plan won that is the one I voted on and also I went with the D logs I think the big logs makes a cabin luck more like a cabin and I also voted for the wood fireplace I think with a cabin a wood fire place makes it more rustic, and for the porch lights I voted for the scones but after taking another look maybe the pendant lites might look good also.So I can't wait to see what will win and looking forward on voting on the next set of things for this cabin.
Posted by: Karen at January 21, 2008 5:07 PM
I'm so excited to see that San Jacinto won (OF COURSE IT WAS MY FAVORITE) and I can't wait to see the finished prize. WOW!! Whether there will be changes or not, I know this CABIN will be AWESOME!
I never thought that I could be so excited about different types of logs, light fixtures, and gas or log fireplaces. And just think we have a voice in what cabin to build, what type of logs to build it with, what type of fireplace to use-Where else can you do that? Especially when it's not your own home. Well, not yet anyway!!!!
You bet I'll be voting on the next group of features, I can't wait.
I love reading the blogs too. There are so many great suggestions such as the screened in porch and windows for the back of the great room to let in light, stairs off the back deck to access the lake which I've also thought of too. Who knows maybe these things will be added to the plans.
You know, even if there not this CABIN will be BEAUTIFUL!!
Posted by: Monique Rose at January 21, 2008 5:30 PM
I think I agree with cabinscraps about the fireplaces. I'm a little afraid of gas but I think I would use it more inside if it were a gas fire place.
mia
Posted by: Mia at January 21, 2008 5:54 PM
I think it is very important for a walkway down to the lakeshore. Also, are floating boatdocks allowed on this lake? If not, where are boats stored and lowered into the water? If you are allowed a boatdock the steps to the lake would lead to a boatdock ramp which could be part indoors, part outdoors with a diving board, ladder, etc.
I agree that gas heat is clean, but it isn't warm and it costs money to operate, whereas there may be woods available for using your own chainsaw for firewood.
I love the idea of a window upstairs!
This is so exciting. I can't wait to select countertops, flooring, and see the other options that are going to be made available to all of us who enjoy this so much!
Posted by: Sara Jane at January 21, 2008 6:02 PM
I forgot to add that as many windows as possible should be added upstairs, and a bathtub would be such a luxury upstairs! Talk to you soon!
Posted by: Sara Jane at January 21, 2008 6:04 PM
The back deck even when it is extended will only give you a view thru the railing so my suggestion would be a 2 level deck so when sitting inside or on the main level deck and looking out that if the lower level deck was 3 feet below the main level deck then you would be looking out to the water with a perfect view and the uppper windows you spoke of adding would be solid pane glass so they would not break up the lake view and also would be easy to clean. Also you could put on the lower deck a grilling area or a hot tub or both..
Mo
Posted by: Morris Ellis at January 21, 2008 7:00 PM
All my choices are losing this round. :(
I think the square logs would give the cabin a modern look while still retaining a log cabin feel. The Estate Clubhouse looks to have a stone facade and looks wonderful. I don't think the other log choices fit in as well with it. I don't have a strong opinion on the fireplace and lighting choices, but like gas and sconces, respectively
Posted by: MikeC at January 21, 2008 7:52 PM
Hi all,
Just wondering how you are picking your sites? Of late, the hgtv dream home and 2007 blog cabin have been south. My ideas center to Maine, Montana, Idaho. There is a great lake system in Downeast Maine area. Gardener Lake in East Machias and this then also is only minutes from the ocean. People would get the best of both worlds. Please check in out for 2009.
Thanks,
love the idea of blog cabin and the green home!
Posted by: Mary at January 21, 2008 7:54 PM
I think a central vac system should definitely be in the home. It is so easy to keep the house tidy especially if there is a wood burning fireplace. I have one and would never build another house without one.
Posted by: Carol Forwith at January 21, 2008 7:54 PM
I'm glad you choose that floor plan. I live in Florida, and if I was building this blogcabin I would consider that since FLorida in the middle of the hurricane zone that I would have some kind of hurricane sutters installed. Either the kind that roll up or the kind that are put on with wing nuts to cover the windows and any sliding glass doors. Also since Florida is the sunshine state, it would be cool if this blogcabin was totally solar and didn't depend on Electricity. You could use the same metal roofing as in the first blogcabin and put the solar panels in the roofing system. Speaking of the roof, make sure that the roof is strapped to the structure really good,as previously stated Florida is one of the hurricane states. If eveything was solar then the person who gets this blogcabin wouldn't have to worry about losing electricity. Since the last blogcabin was using green building materials, you should also use green building materials on this one. You should also keep in mind that termites are a big problem in Florida, and make sure that there is a good termite barrier put down before you pour the foundation. Also, keep in mind that there are fire ants and palmato bugs down here and be sure an install good screens in the windows and use good screen doors. You should consider using alot of native plants in the landscape, and if putting in a lawn be sure to include a good sprinkling system and sprinklers. You should also put in a screened patio on the lake side of the blogcabin with a outdoor kitchen and fireplace. Also maybe you should wire and install Satellite television so that the winner can still watch DYI while enjoying the blogcabin.
Posted by: Kathy K Brofford at January 21, 2008 8:55 PM
The round logs really say "log cabin". I really hate walking into a what looks like a log cabin on the outside and finding the interior has flat walls. There is nothing cozier than sitting by an open fire (no gas) in a great room of a real log cabin.
Posted by: Todd at January 21, 2008 9:11 PM
I am new to this - lake is a wonderful site
Posted by: Gary Robb at January 21, 2008 10:08 PM
As for the gas verses wood fireplace, the gas is clean and easy but if you have any problems with the fireplace it's horrible. We have a gas fireplace and somehow some kind of animal managed to get into the chimney area and die. The chimney for a gas fireplace isn't a straightforward one like a wood fireplace and we've tried having someone go down from the roof to find the critters. No luck and a lot of mess and money. Our only other choice is to have someone to pull out the whole gas fireplace and that would require part of our hearth to be removed due to the way it was built. We've been sitting and looking at an unusable fireplace for 3 winters now. A wood one would have been a breeze to fix! I live just north of the area where the cabin is being built and while it's not a harsh winter, I do miss my fireplace.
Posted by: Pam D at January 21, 2008 10:19 PM
I'm all for the basement!!! But making it a walkout one is a great idea. Maybe making a shower area down there that is easy to get to so that wet kids/adults aren't treaking water everywhere.
Posted by: Jaimie at January 22, 2008 12:38 AM
I can understand the popularity of the d-log system--classic for a "cabin." But this cabin is on a lake, in a less rustic setting than blog-cabin 2007 in the Tennessee woods. I think you need to rethink the votes in terms of the kind of lot and its location before deciding to build the cabin just based on the votes of all of the bloggers--some of whom probably did not take the cabin's location and "neighborhood" into account. I'm interested in what we need to to vote on next! I was a late comer to blog cabin 2007, so I'm glad to be in on the beginning of bc 2008.dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Posted by: tigger444 at January 22, 2008 2:27 AM
Since the lot slopes toward the lake from the street there is an opportunity to have a walkout basement. Then you could have a raised deck and a patio underneath. The basement would provide extra space for storage, mechanicals, game room? media room? sauna?
Posted by: Jim at January 22, 2008 8:30 AM
I agree with some of the other bloggers that extending the porch some and screening it in would make for a great extended living space for three out of the four seasons and nothing would be better than napping on this porch with ceiling fans giving you just the breeze you need to sleep.
I also love the idea of the real log fireplace but I do suffer from allergies and asthma so possible making the fireplace easy to convert in the case that the winner has some of the same issues.
I would love to see the indoor fireplace floor to ceiling stone. Thank you for offering the blogging for the cabin I have really enjoyed reading all the ideas.
Posted by: Kristin at January 22, 2008 9:14 AM
I would like to see a basement with blog home. THE LAST LOG HOME LEFT TOO MUCH WASTED SPACE BELOW THE CABIN.How about turning it into a garage or a family room
Posted by: stephen at January 22, 2008 9:18 AM
My thoughts are this, washer and rier are great where they are, cabinets over top would be great forstorage, and maybe a flush mounted hide-away ironing board that when open will be over top of the dryer. Use mud room as such, include large sink basin, and put one of those little boot cleaning decorative statuetes by the mud room door. good thoughts for the mud room, an area to put boots, shoes ect, possibly a little hideaway seat/bench. Hooks on the walls to hang, bags coats quickly etc. I don't believe that a tub needs to upstairs. I think the fireplace should be accompanied by outdoor cabinets that match the outside of the home, for storage of fireplace accessories, grilling items etc. Screening the porch is not a favorite the whole premise is to enjoy the outdoors. I think that too many sets of stairs will take away from the home, convieniece is great but wont add to the quality of the home or its appeal.( you have to remember that supports will be needed for the stairs) As an after thought for the planned stairs it would look great to use the same logs used for the cabin itself. Just my thoughts enjoy!
Posted by: Tara at January 22, 2008 10:05 AM
Well, the blogs are backing up again. I am guessing because of the holiday. I think the idea of having a gas log fireplace in the house and an open log one on the porch is a great idea. Living with and indoor fireplace is too much work, even if it is a vacation home. Who the heck wants to have to clean out the fireplace while they are on vacation or even living in the home permanently. Of all the people I have know that had vacation homes, expected to retire there and what retired person wants to clean out a fireplace. A number of the bloggers are either near retirement or possibly already retired. I, for one would rather have less to do in retirement, so I can enjoy the lake and nature and do the things I like to do, NOT cleaning a indoor fireplace.
THINK ahead people......
You younger ones will know what I mean as you get older. Besides how good is even a fireplace in our environment wood or gas? Wood may be cheap, sweat equity ways, but it is not cheap to buy and besides, do you want to be chopping wood in a vacation home. BEEN there, Done that, no way for my family! Just wanted you to really think about the advantages of having the gas at least indoors. St least outdoors, it would be easy to hose the deck floor down. How green will these things be anyways.....
Think about it, PLEASE!
I voted for the sconce lamp because a hanging lamp is always a hazard when changing a light bulb. Besides how high is the ceiling? If it is 8 foot as most porch ceilings are, It is not going to hang very low. They look great on a high ceiling.
but a low ceiling as low as you can go so the door doesn't hit it.
Hey people! There ARE windows in the plan. Have you even looked at the elevation pictures? Is that not a double window and a half round above it? Sky lights would be good to add daylight. They do need to be installed properly or they can be costly to repair leaks.
Now isn't amazing how much you feel is inadequate now that you have voted on the San Jacinto. Oh well, only one will win, out of how many of us. Last blog cabin touted over 1,000,000 voters.
Hope you all have a good DAY.
Posted by: Lynn in NC at January 22, 2008 10:47 AM
Natural Gas should be considered for heating and hot water. This would also be good for the inside fireplace. The outdoor fireplace could still be woodburning.
An unfinished basement with a walkout to the lake would also be nice. It could have a 1/2-bath for cleanup when coming and going. Maybe it could even be a garage if the slope of the land supports it.
Posted by: Denny at January 22, 2008 11:16 AM
i love all the beauty this site lends to the log home. i must admit i was shocked to notice it did'nt include a dock, nor have i noticed ceiling fans. it would be nice to add and old fashioned wood shed that resembles the cabin. i do like most of the ideas coming from the other bloggers.
thanks.
terry
phoenix, ny
Posted by: terry checksfield at January 22, 2008 11:19 AM
Great fun being able to put our two cents worth on the Blog Cabin. It'll be great for the lucky winner regardless as I know the crew will never build anything that is not usable. I had a thought that while probably not too popular, might make the kitchen area more livable. It appears the distance from the back of the eat-on bar and the face of the cabinets on the opposite side is only about 5 feet. That's pretty tight, particularly when the dishwasher door is open. The corridor through the kitchen is already narrow and any obstruction such as an open cabinet, fridge or dishwasher door makes it almost impassable. Since I would hate to move the bar into the dining area, and I do think it should remain as eat-on bars are really nice, the only alternative would be to move the wall next to the room behind the kitchen a foot or so into that space. Just an extra foot in the kitchen would be welcome, particularly if couples enjoy cooking together. Then I would consider moving the washer/dryer into the rear foyer area, possibly include a free standing utiity sink and move the rear foyer entrance into the side wall across from the original washer/dryer location. The smaller foyer could still have a wall of shelves and coat pegs and be funtional as a mud room. The space where the washer/dryer was becomes the pantry. It obviously kills any chance of a folding room or computer room, but increasing the kitchen area in my mind could be more important. A computer cove could always be put in the loft area if one wanted. Anymore in this day of wi-fi and laptops, a dedicated area for a computer isn't that big of a deal anyway.
Posted by: Doug at January 22, 2008 11:23 AM
i think it would be better to have a gas fireplace
instead of wood because where are you going to get
wood in the area that is a comunity setting and i dont think they would like you to cut down their
trees for fuel.
Posted by: Tracy at January 22, 2008 11:27 AM
PEOPLE VOTE ROUND LOGS !!!! ITS A LOG CABIN !! WHY VOTE D-LOGS ? THATS LIKE PUTTING PANELING UP , LOG HOMES SHOULD HAVE ROUND LOGS.. WHY WOULD YOU WANT FLAT WOOD WALLS? THE ROUND LOGS GIVE YOU THE LOG CABIN FEEL INSIDE AS WELL AS OUTSIDE..
VOTE ROUND LOGS
Posted by: ROUND LOGS at January 22, 2008 12:09 PM
I voted for the round logs because they look so rustic, but someone mentioned wasps like to nest in the spaces (eek!!). I love the wall sconce and voted for a woodburning fireplace. I was born in the dark ages and still have issues about gas. I adore the cabin thus fare, keep up the terrific work.
Posted by: L.R. at January 22, 2008 1:43 PM
Hey ROUND LOGS - You want to dust my cabin (that is if I win)?!!! Other comments have been made for a computer space in the loft or that everyone has WiFi anyway - not. There is little consideration for those people who can't easily do stairs. But as far as those statement that the neighborhood has to be considered for the appearance of the Blog Cabin - this cabin is going to be gorgeous & not the typical cabin-shack. It will not only fit in - the other homes need to measure up! Everyone has thier opinion & really all are good, but like Amy said in the last season - they have to make it look like all the parts we voted on are from the same puzzle! I am SO looking forward to the actual build of the cabin!
Posted by: Therese at January 22, 2008 1:45 PM
I love reading the blog each day and dreaming along with others about winning this wonderful cabin. I agree with other blogers about needing a door to a bathroom from the loft area. Like they said this could be extra sleeping for guests and they would have to go into a bedroom the way it is now. I would also like the kitchen opened up more with an island. We live about 3 hours from where the cabin is being built and are getting ready to retire in a few months. This would be so GREAT!!!!!!! There I go dreaming again!
Baskets of Blessings
Joyce
Posted by: Joyce at January 22, 2008 1:56 PM
I had voted for the gas logs, but when I did I was just thinking about the inside. I would really like to see gas inside and wood outside. By reading some of the other comments it seems a lot of people feel the same way. The smell of wood burning is nice and you can still get that with the outside but still have the clean and easy gas logs inside. Really hope DIY will split the choices.
Posted by: Cathy at January 22, 2008 1:58 PM
I agree with a previous post that the deck should be moved to another side of the house. Who wants a social gathering outside their master bedroom. Also the gas/wood fireplace combo would give an opportunity to use either. In a previous post someone mentioned a basement. That would be and excellent idea for additional storage of fishing,swimming gear, logs,car,boat. I understand lot 5 is the location but is there an overhead of the lots of location for viewing that points out lot 5 to gather a better understanding to its actual location please?
Posted by: Bob at January 22, 2008 2:36 PM
Its interesting reading the blogs on this cabin. Many people seem to believe that gas is a better environmental choice for the interior fire. This is not so. It may appear to burn cleaner with no mess to clean but it's costly to produce and pipe to the house. It’s not renewable and contributes significantly to CO2 emissions and global warming. It also leaves homeowners vulnerable to price hikes which will be a certainty in the future, not good for retirees on a fixed income. There is also the possibility of supply interruption. Gas leaks are a real danger and fires need constant servicing to avoid carbon monoxide fumes if they are vent less. Wood is more messy and a problem to haul (though not as much as some would believe). It is, however, carbon neutral being the only fuel source that is totally renewable. Some simple design modifications with a raised fire box, a chute in the base and concealed collecting bin for ashes would solve most of the ash problems. Contrary to some comments burning wood doesn't release pollens and allergens into the environment. The cabin is situated in a wooded area where those allergens will abound anyway. Maybe a compromise could be a hybrid gas/wood fire or a wood pellet stove which are almost as clean as gas but more environmentally friendly.
One comment on log shape. Although many people think that round logs are traditional this is only partly correct. Round logs, traditionally, were used for temporary or seasonal construction. More permanent log homes were made from hewn logs with their faces being squared. This is the traditional construction for permanent Tennessee log homes, especially those with two floors.
I’m not sure whether this cabin is intended to be particularly environmentally friendly. Some people have mentioned that it should be but so far I haven’t seen much in the design or the items to vote on that show a big desire to incorporate ‘green’ ideas. Maybe as things progress?
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 22, 2008 2:59 PM
Hello All,
I think this cabin will be nice setting on that lake and who ever wins will be very pleased.
But I feel we should be more concerned with going green in this years 2008 Blog Cabin. Maybe solar power and not poluting the air with wood burning fire places. Maybe using some recycled tires with cobble stone color as a walk way to the lake. To save water with the new going green fixures for sinks and to recycle the water to be used to water the grass.
Just a few thoughts.
Susan
Posted by: Susan at January 22, 2008 3:00 PM
I agree with the suggestion to move the laundry room across the hall, then the space that was the laundry room can be used as a pantry, having lived off the beaten path, I know the importance of plentiful pantry space, the canned goods really take up space. Also please consider ceiling fans in the great room to help circulate heat in the winter. I have lived with cathedral ceilings and fans really do make a difference.
Posted by: Ann L at January 22, 2008 3:15 PM
To all who are wondering how to enter...one doesn't enter to win until the voting is finished. No worries.
To everyone who has changed his/her mind about voting for one thing or another...we are allowed to vote every day--just switch to your new choice. You'll notice that gas logs are beginning to catch up!
Happy Blogging all!
Melanie (voted for DLogs, sconces, and gas!)
Posted by: Melanie See at January 22, 2008 3:39 PM
I simply love the idea of the fireplace being in the middle to be double sided. That would allow the back to be more open, yet still have the fireplace.
I'm also open to doing something with the space across from the washer/dryer. Perhaps that is supposed to be the pantry area though.
I find it difficult to distinquish where the wall will be for the loft. The space will be great for a reading area. I'm very excited to see it all come together. OH, and I'd like to see the stained glass window as someone else mentioned too. What great ideas!
Posted by: Jorjann at January 22, 2008 3:42 PM
What did I miss? Why is Amy not hosting the show again this year? Does anyone know? Loved her!
Posted by: Dee at January 22, 2008 3:49 PM
You Log Cabin fanatics make me laugh. If tradition is what you want then SQUARE it is. This area of of the country had square logs for cabins. The area this cabin is being built in is not "rustic". It's upscale. Although I have voted for the wood burning fireplace, the gas style makes more green sense. Hanging lights are more attractive but sconses make more sense too.
Posted by: Jenny at January 22, 2008 4:23 PM
I would love to see a screened in porch for year round use... When I stay in Gatlinburg, I always get a lot of use from the porch from scenic views to a hot tub. I would love to be able to sit out and view the lake without too much worry of mosquitos.
I'm enjoying voting ... and so far my choices have been the choices of the majority...
Posted by: Kim Whitcomb at January 22, 2008 4:33 PM
Wow, we are all frustrated architects LOL
I am glad so many people are weighing in, esp. those w/knowledge in the diversity of trades represented. I am learning so much about things I never considered!
The comments from people actually living in the locale or like geography are invaluable (ex.: the hanging pendent porch light)!
Mr. Watkins: is there a way to QUICKLY run a computer program of the most-often requested changes BEFORE the plans are finalized? A nearby college computer dept. should be able to design one. Or, maybe a DIY viewer?
What fun this is and a great way to see the creativity of this country!
Huntsville, Texas
Posted by: Leslie Thompson at January 22, 2008 4:40 PM
I recently moved to a house that has a gas fireplace. I'll never go back to wood burning again! Flip a switch and you're enjoying the fire. Good-bye to ordering/chopping/hauling wood!
Posted by: Thea at January 22, 2008 4:45 PM
Could someone post a small view from above on the cabin with indicators for N, S, E, and W?
Please.
Posted by: JTW at January 22, 2008 5:21 PM
I'm wondering if quartz countertops (Silestone, Zodiaq, etc.) will be a choice when voting for the kitchen counters comes up. Quartz counters are real stone, they're stronger than granite, they're scratch resistant, and they don't have to be sealed like granite.
When I went counter shopping I never thought I could afford stone countertops because I was comparing granite prices to laminiate and Corian. When I found out I could get quartz counters for less than Corian, I was sold, and I'm really happy with both the look of the quartz stone counters and how well they are holding up. I hope you will consider this a counter top choice for the Blog Cabin.
Posted by: robin at January 22, 2008 5:34 PM
Hey ROUND LOGS, I live in a D-log home, and there's not a thing about it that looks like paneling! How can you possibly say a D-log doesn't look like a log?? No one ever comes to my house and says, hey, robin, nice wood paneling you've got there. My house is obviously built of logs, and it looks like a log home, and all the comments I get are positive (and jealous)!
Posted by: robin at January 22, 2008 6:00 PM
So many Blogs to read and so little time! Here is my 2 cents. Yes, north south directions would be nice, where is the sun going to be? My vote for the gas fireplace, as I get older it is harder to gather, chop, and carry wood, and isn't gas "greener"? with a metal roof to gather rain water, can solar pannels be installed? a back up generator for emergencies. One of the blogs stated storage in the cellar, this would be great if the proper ventilation is installed, unless you have indistructable c-ratations! Also under the deck/porch for storing the canoes. Everyone has such wonderful suggestions! What type of wood for the logs?
I loved watching Blog cabin 2007, my Dish network had it on for a 'free' month. then it was gone! talk about withdrawal! With my 'package' I can get HGTV, but not DYT, I don't understand that and had a long discussion with my carrier.
Well I can get my 'fix of DYI' on my 'puter!
Thanks, Jersey 'Girl'
Posted by: Roberta at January 22, 2008 6:11 PM
All I can say is: THINK GAS LOGS! The reason being wood is nice BUT VERY DIRTY and a lot of work...#1; You have to find it, cut it, split it, stack it, OR buy it. #2; Sometimes it's really hard to get it to start, and when you do..it can be kind of smokey and it doesn't shut off when you get warmed up, and if you want it to keep burning, you have to keep putting wood on to keep it going. #3; After you have had your nice warm fire, you have to clean the ashes out of the fireplace before you can have another nice warm fire....where do you put the ashes (the ones that didn't spill out on the hearth and carpet,etc. while you were cleaning)? #4; You will have to paint your walls, and dust, and clean more often...because no matter how hard you try...some of the fireplace soot always escapes un-noticed until you clean. Just like cigarette smoking and kitchen greases the fireplace residue eventually builds up on your walls, pictures, windows, furniture, and nic-nacs. I know this because I currently live with a wood-burning fireplace...Not to mention you also need to have someone CLEAN the chimney once a year to prevent chimney fires from the creosote build-up from the wonderful romantic fires you burned all winter. And if you get in the way of the smoke that comes in to the living room while you are trying to start the fire, you will smell like burned wood. How nice! Like I said: THINK GAS!!
Posted by: Becky at January 22, 2008 7:00 PM
I am not trying to put the cart before the horse I don't get much of a chance to get on the computer so I was wondering about using L.E.D. lighting thru out this cabin. I have heard and be trying to read up more on this type of lighting but info seems scarce.it would make sense to use it if you are trying to go green and maybe educate someof us about it and where we can get ths bulbs
Posted by: joe smith at January 22, 2008 7:28 PM
I agree with what a lot have folks have pointed out..the square logs are the more traditional style and therefore, my choice. Additionally, although I prefer the smell and ambience of a real wood-burning fireplace, after having family members with allergies and having had both wood-burning stoves and gas logs, the gas logs make much more sense. I'll never go back to the mess and expense or labor of wood. I guess it all depends on the individual.
Posted by: Becky at January 22, 2008 7:34 PM
Thanks to the person who came up with this idea of a viewer designed home. But as a former framer we all know that there are many hurt fealings in the process and that is why I tell people if they want a divorce just build a house. Just kidding You can either have it your way or be happy.
I think that moving the washer and dryer into the rear foyer would be a possible move. Moving it into the pantry accross from the designed area would make the pantry too small. A possible solution would be to do away with the rear foyer, door and wasted niche to enlarge the whole cramped area wich would allow for enlarging the kitchen enough to incorporate an island.
I think just enlarging the porch behind the great room maybe another ten feet would be great for watching sunrises, sunsets, and of course B.B.Qs. Also,a wider than normal set of steps centered on the fireplace would create a flowing entrance onto the back of the house. If the steps were made from the same masonry material as the fireplace it would command attention from the lake. Then a set of steps to the left end of the porch so you wont have to catch a trolly around the house to get up and down off the porch.
A window wall upstairs for the light is a wonderfull idea. I trimmed out a friend of mines log cabin with different sizes of rope if they use the round logs because of the problems at the baseboards and areas where round meets square wich left small and large gaps. Thanks again for this opportunity and I wont be upset if I dont get my way.
P.S. a covered boat dock would be awesome.
Posted by: joe bayer at January 22, 2008 11:07 PM
I just can't understand all these people wanting to change the floor plan. They said they voted for the San Jacinto but want to change so much of it. I like it just the way it is. There are always things you would like to do differently in a house you move into but I can't wait until I win this one so I won't have to change a thing about it!!
Can't wait to see what we vote on next.
Posted by: Beverly at January 22, 2008 11:26 PM
Okay Guys,
I've been reading everyone's blogs for days now and find that I have a very important question to ask DIY, Mr. Hawkins, Ahmed, and/or any other person involved with the planning, building, and the eventual giving of this fabulous gift to some lucky person.
Why do you bother to give the American public the chance to vote on their favorite floorplans for the Blog Cabin, and then let everyone tell you how they want to change nearly every aspect of the cabin that wins? That doesn't make sense to me since people obviously voted for this particular plan because they liked it for its unique qualities and over-all layout. It seems unfair to those who voted for and won the San Jacinto plan on their vote.
Please don't take this the wrong way, bloggers. Some of the ideas that you guys have offered have been very good, but they would alter the entire look and ambiance of the San Jacinto floorplans. I, for one, love the San Jacinto just as it is. It's beautifully laid out, and has nearly everything that all of you people asked for in the beginning, except for it being a single-story home! It's actually got much more than we asked for in some areas-- not to mention that absolutely gorgeous lake lot!
I can understand asking for such things as back steps, a tub in one of the upstairs bathrooms, or maybe an extra door out of the great room to the front porch; and I can also understand the need for a screened-in area on part of the porch, but don't ask for such dramatic changes and additions that it destroys the overall floorplan and raises the cost of the cabin to outlandish proportions!
This blog cabin is going to be a wonderful GIFT that is GIVEN to someone who is lucky enough to win it! Please don't let us get so greedy that we ruin it for those who love it just as it is, or with very few changes that benifit others.
Personally, I would have loved for it to be green all the way, but it probably isn't going to be. That, however, would not hender me from accepting it if I should win.
My daddy always told us to 'never look a gift horse in the mouth', whatever that means. I'm sure not going to to start now.
All that being said, do you think maybe we could make some of these changes and add a garage or whatever, ourselves, if or when we win it? Think about what you've saved by not having to build a whole cabin.
The only thing that we should all agree on is that the cabin be made more handicapped-friendly. That wouldn't bother me at all because this wonderful place should be a dream gift for any person who enters and wins--handicapped or not. Just think about it, bloggers
Thanks for listening to my opinions.
Posted by: CJ at January 23, 2008 12:06 AM
I'm just seeing the 2008 Blog Cabin for the first time and I'm blown away! This home is just like the home we have imagined as our dream cabin on a lake in the woods! It's beautiful! I can't wait to see how it progresses!
Posted by: Kristin at January 23, 2008 12:10 AM
well, if you're considering suggestions i like michelle's idea of a centralized doublesided fireplace. i like it for the reasons suggested, but also it would make a more effective heat source. if you wanted to go really crazy, you could even make a hearth available to the loft using the same chute.
as to the current voting choices, i would like to argue for the SCONCE over the hanging lamp. i think the sconces lend to a more traditional look, plus the hanging lamps don't look as if they would do so well in a good wind as is possible in a lake environment.
i also agree with the comments on making the back and master BR porches screened-in. as much as i would love being that close to nature, i could do with minimizing the "pesty" side.
Posted by: Trista at January 23, 2008 12:36 AM
For those looking at the 4 closets in the upstairs bedrooms... the 2 on the lakeside are in the eves so they are for storage.... so Wasted Space guy... help make it not just wasted space...
Love my island I have in my kitchen and wouldn't want to give it up...it has a space for the trash can so it is out of the way... great idea.
Don't care for the door on the toliet area in the Master bath... it is just in the way... loose it.
On the stairs to the Lake from the porch... why not make it a wide set of stairs so it won't block the view from the Great Room and also can be used to set on when there is a crowd over.. just and idea???
I am still liking the idea of moving the big porch area to the kitchen side... and making the one on the master bedroom side half the size (or not) but not getting rid of it entirely.. so you could put a not tub there & a table to have morning coffe or evening drinks...
Love the idea of others for retractable screens for the side large porch areas...
It helps to have the input from those in the area about bugs, etc...
my 2 cents for today..
Posted by: Barbara Turner at January 23, 2008 3:54 AM
Wow, Trying to read through all the blogs from the last posting is overwhelming. Lots of discussion going on.
Back to the laundry room, is in the path of what would probably be one of the busiest entries and could potentially be a grid lock. Getting the W/D in an area away from the traffic flow is the moist logical thing to do. Can a fishing closet fit in the back foyer as you come in with a bench.
That thing in the master is the support for the Ridge post for those who were unsure what it is. I assumed that the purpose of the D-Log construction is so wall board would be needed on the outside wall, and the interior walls I would hope to be made of the mildew resistant kind. Even a well constructed house can accumulate mildew in a humid environment. (especially bathrooms a kitchens) Please use mildew resistant on the interior walls.
Since a wood burning fireplace seems to be what most bloggers are going for how about adding two windows over the French doors so the view is visible from the loft. If used as a lounging area this would be very soothing to the soul to see the lake.
No step downs please. I think this would be a costly adjustment to the original plan and is not conducive to anyone that has difficulty with even the steps. I can just see the kids running through the house either tripping or falling while playing around like kids do. NO STEP DOWN, PLEASE.
On the kitchen again please do an Island the traffic flow will be a lot easier. Pantry closets where the W/D reside. Any woman or even you guys would LOVE a pantry closet. I put one in my old hose and loved the organization and missed it when we moved. I have finally gotten one in this kitchen when we started to remodel.
Love the idea of the outdoor shower for rinsing off when coming back into the house, but it should be by the lake front stairs, because I see that being where everyone will hitting that porch from the lake.
Admit it guys some of the things suggested can be added or changed by the winner, though, some kind of a two car garage is something that I think is necessary.
Laundry, first floor, high volume of laundry on second. WOW, one floor plan would have alleviated this problem. Oh well, live with it. On two story the 2nd floor laundry is really, really great. I have that now and definetly a great convenience.
Well, enough for today. Happy Wednesday y'awl.
Posted by: Lynn in NC at January 23, 2008 9:11 AM
I missed out on the voting for the last BlogCabin! I really enjoyed watching it though. East Tennessee, my favorite place to go!!! Beautiful...
I would like to see the rear foyer incorporated into a Mud Room. Since it is a lake property, you need a place to store muddy gear (boots, etc.) maybe even fishing gear, a nice counter with a sink and storage underneath. It's all about the storage. Everything in it's place and a place for everything!
This is so much fun!!!
Thanks
Posted by: Laurie at January 23, 2008 10:25 AM
What an ideal setting for this blog cabin. Watts Bar Lake is the perfect location! I also think there needs to be a large screened in porch on the lakeside of the cabin. If you have ever lived in the south around water, you know what a pest those no-see'ems and mosquitos can be. In order to truly enjoy the outdoors in the evening a screened area is a must!
Posted by: Leigh Haught at January 23, 2008 11:23 AM
On the fire place: It should be wood burning however consider a propane fire starter so that you don't have all the mess (paper,fat wood, etc.) to get the logs going
Posted by: Don at January 23, 2008 11:25 AM
I must correct a mistake in an earlier blog I wrote. On the gas v wood fire I said that wood fires didn't release pollen or allergens. That was a mistake I missed when editing. It should read wood fires don't release pollens but they do release allergens, however, they release fewer allergens such as nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxide than gas fires. Gas also has a large pollution component in it's manufacture and is not renewable. It can't be regarded as a 'green' fuel. Wood is the only truly 'green' fuel that can be burned for heat, being completely renewable and carbon neutral.
A compromise could be a gas starter for a wood fire. A better option if the smoke particles are thought to be a problem would be an enclosed fire box or a wood pellet burning stove with a recirculating blower to get hot, clean air circulating in the cabin. Pellets offer the green positives of wood (they are made from sawmill waste easily available locally) with a cleaner interior environment and almost no ash to clean up. They are also one of the cheapest and most efficient fuels. Gas is neither and will only increase in cost over the next few years. On average many utilities supplying gas are looking to hike prices by 10 - 15% in the next two years.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 23, 2008 11:28 AM
Hellooo DIY!
Very interesting reading regarding the blogs ~ some very good ideas!
I kinda like the ol' fashioned idea that a log cabin is...just that! To have the indoors sharing with the outdoors and outdoors sharing with the indoors....back to nature attitude.
I have used both gas and wood burning fire places; although the upkeep is greater with the wood, I would prefer the wood... there is nothing like the smell of a good wood burning fireplace.
I have thought about the screened-in porch idea and think probably that it is a great suggestion. However, with this being a log cabin, I would prefer the porch area opened; substituting the screen for eco-friendly plants, planted around the area of the house, which would repel the bugs. Again, using the outdoors...in.
I do agree that the outdoor fireplace is on the wrong side of the house; it would be more practical closer to the kitchen/dining area. You could also add plants and candlelight on the master bedroom porch area if you are looking for a more romantic atmosphere. ;)
I do agree that there should be some sort of fire escape for the second floor. For those of us having difficulties with stairs; the master bedroom and all conveniences needed are actually on the first floor. There really isn't a need for stair climbing, so I really don't see a need for an elevator. I think that would take away from the sophistication of the log cabin.
I think the log cabin atmosphere should remain as a log cabin. I know it has been hundreds of years since the first built cabins and there have been great improvements within those years, however, I would like to see the history still remain with this one. (Sometimes, simplicity is the best!)
Happy Logging!
Posted by: UnspokenMiztie at January 23, 2008 11:45 AM
Here are a few thoughts on log styles...mine, of course!! First the round log is very traditional, however, when you are looking at insulation factor...or thermal mass, a round log is similar to the old saying....a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link (or something like that). It would appear to me that the milled log of approx. 7.5" round sets on the log beneath it...this is approx. a 2" area where the tongue and groove is located. Therefore the would the insulation be calculated with this "weaker area" in mind??? Anyway, I have always liked the 6x12 dovetail log because you don't see any milled t&g at the corners, like you do on the round and d-logs. While I'm on my soap box about efficient structures...I feel that if you are going with a wood burning fire place then one built inside the structure (like earlier mentioned, between the foyer and great room) would be the best location....stones heat up...radiates warmth into the home.
Oh yeah one more thing...I'm not sure the elevation is drawing correctly...the wrap porch is not on the side of the large porch off the master bedroom...I believe it should be on the other side.
Posted by: Vickie at January 23, 2008 11:55 AM
Amy/Ahmed,
I'm an Industrial Engineer by trade home, after an operation convalescing and hopefully will be returning to work within the next week or so. In the mean time I have had way to much free time on my hands these past many weeks reading all the blogs and blueprints over and over on the 2007 build and now on the 2008 build..
Is the small room across from the washer and dryer going to be the utility room? If not where do you plan to have them, not clearly shown on the blueprints..
I noticed many of the blogs are asking for gas burning fireplaces, they have obviously never dealt with the Tennessee Valley (Energy) Authority, the people that bring you your gas, water, and electric. Be prepared to pay big bucks. I dealt with them on a plant construction project Knoxville, and the cost for energy is very high in that area. We thought here in Chicagoland the costs were high but be prepared, plus as concerned citizens of this planet we should be thinking “Green” all the way or as much as reasonable. A face cord of wood down in TN. Is going to be a lot cheaper then gas, plus its “Green”
Have you put any consideration to solar panels on the roof, I don’t know how many trees are on the property or if it would be feasible, but they have great benefits in heating water to heating the home, and providing small amounts of electricity.
Are you going to have sun roofs/lights in the roof to provide warmth and light to the second floor? Speaking for myself I would want to bring as much of the outdoors in and that would be one way to do so, and the nights down there are very pretty.
Since storage will be at a premium, are you going to build a small little shed next to the house that will resemble the home in looks, and is this OK with the home owners association?
Kitchen lighting, have you put much thought into the lighting? I would have a series of direct lights (spots/track lighting/cans) over the stove and cooking areas (without which I would burn down the house), indirect lights over the eating area, and subdued lighting for easy on the eyes lighting for other occasions. I know when I’m entertaining a guest I like to have very subdued lights on in the kitchen (I have under cabinet lights/and the rope lights above the cabinets) it’s a nice soft gentle touch to the kitchen.
I see where the hanging porch light is winning instead of the sconce lights, I still think there should be a third option and that would be to have both on separate switches. On those hot summer nights after dinner you may want to sit outside and the bugs will be so bad you can’t because the hanging light will draw them, and they are the size of small dogs down there. With sconce lights they are indirect and soft lighting for those intimate moments where its you and mother nature. The hanging light is more for if you wanted to eat outdoors, or play board games outside unless you hook them up on a dimmer switch then you can have the best of both worlds.
Bob
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2008 11:56 AM
Oh yeah...one more thing (ok, I'm sure there will be more things in the future). About a walk out basement...how about the wonderful permanent wood foundations basement?? Anyone ever heard of them???
Posted by: Vickie at January 23, 2008 12:19 PM
Would like to see the outdoor fireplace enclosed as a screened porch, outdoors without the bugs
Posted by: John R. Ficht at January 23, 2008 12:41 PM
I love the look of the "D" logs, but do agree that most of the old cabins in the area are square cut. The Gas Fireplace is best, it has less inpact on greenhouse gas and you don't have to worry about snakes hiding in the wood pile. A screened porch would be great, you could enjoy the outdoors without all the bugs. The upstairs closets do need to be redone! Just one closet for each bedroom and a bigger bathroom.
Posted by: Steve at January 23, 2008 12:45 PM
I have seen the comment about the fireplaces and cutting down trees. The association or regulations may not allow just cutting trees on your lot for firewood. Also how many of you have actually cut down a tree? It is very dangerous. Do you not see the home video shows. I grew up around logging and people were killed and seriously injured cutting down trees with saws and they were skilled at it. Now they have special equipment but you still have to know how trees fall and to get them to fall where you want them to land. There may be restrictions even for the builders on which trees and how many they need to leave or even which ones.
I know they will need to clear some trees to build. Can they save the downed trees and stack the wood or logs where the lucky person that wins can use the wood in the outside fireplace. I am still very much for gas logs inside and woodburning outside.
As to gas and leaks it does burn cleaner than wood and you do not have the mess and smells to deal with. What do you think happens to the smoke from the fire, what makes up the smoke and how do you think the gunk gets in the chimney? That build up can ingnite and cause a fire. Wood gives off gases and causes chemical build up when burning.
As to leaks, gas is used in many homes in America. Gas leaks are not that often. And who says the gas has to be natural but LPG. There are areas where natural gas lines do not extend and LPG tanks are used. They can even bury them these days. There are probably as many or more fires or accidents from wood burning fireplaces as gas. Most house fires are from open flames like candles, cigerettes, matches and space heaters. Gas cooking is the most liked by many chefs. There are many homes with gas stoves or ranges and heating. Leaks are not a really a worry but one should know they can happen.Fires when cooking are usually from leaving something on a burner or getting flammable item too close to a burner, no matter if gas or electric. Please don't try to use the fear of a gas leak to not have gas logs or gas cooking and heating. An electrical short causes fires as well. We don't live in a bubble and there are no gaurantees in life except there will be death. Fireplaces require care and caution just like a stove or heater.
As to an animal getting into a chimney. If there is not a proper guard on the cheminey an animal can get in but that does not matter if it is gas or wood. Both have the same problem. A fireplace and cheminey require maintenance and checking yearly to properly operate and to help avoid fires. The cheminey is pretty much the same now for both types of fireplaces. They are safer than years ago.
They run gas ignitors to some woodburning fireplaces. If you ever tired to start a fire using only wood you would appreciate an ignitor. If the wood is not dry enough, even the log starter you buy will have a hard time getting the wood to burn.
I hate to tell you but the smoke from wood burning fireplaces do cause problems for many people who suffer from sinus or allery problems. My husband and I visit my family home once a year. If they have used the fireplace in the past week or two or use while we are there, both of us start having sinus problems and even has turned into a sinus infection. We can smell the smoke and sometimes other oders from the fire.
Things grow on the wood while it is stacked and when that stuff bruns it does put stuff in the air. It can even have stuff grow on the trees before they are cut. What about while the wood is inside waiting to be burned? If it has fungus or mold that can get into the room.
There are things in nature that do cause problems for people to breath when they are burned, ie tobacco. Natural gas is from nature and organic stuff. Also not all woods or trees should be used in a fireplace. Some have burning properties that you would not want in your home.
I also saw where someone said this is a log cabin. That is not really true. It will be a house made from one of the types of logs but not a real log cabin. My father's family place had a log cabin and it was not a very good place to live or even stay over night. In the winter it was very cold and you could not keep it clean. As already mention dust is a problem. You have no idea of the amount of dust and stuff that collects on the rounded logs both inside and outside. That includes insects and spiders. We even found a small snake bedding between two logs. This was an old real log cabin but I can not imagine it being any different for collecting dust and dust bunnies. If there is a ledge or shelf area, it will collect dust and don't forget, the tall ceiling for the great area. Who gets to climb the extension ladder to do that dusting? Think realistic and not just sounds good.
Posted by: Frances in Texas at January 23, 2008 12:58 PM
Hi All,
New to the blog but not the program. The '07 Blog cabin was very informative and enjoyable to watch.
Like some others, I've been accumulating a folder of plans & ideas for the day I can build my own dream cabin. I have many ideas to share but would first like to see an overhead of the site and orientation of the home on the site along with left and right side elevations as some ideas depend on this. Some that don't are moving the outdoor fireplace & area to the opposite end of the home. I agree the master suite deserves a "PRIVATE" deck/porch. This would provide direct outside, as well as inside, access to the party area. Next idea would be a pocket door to master bath to keep bathroom aroma from the closets and bedroom. I also like the idea of a walkout basement, if the terrain would allow such construction. As for the log choice; there is nothing more beautiful in woodworking joinery than a well made box or dove tail joint and they are extreemly strong. AND, as mentioned elsewhere on the blog, square hewn logs (more time/labor) were used in permanent structures. Round logs were of necessity (speed) for less than permanent abodes and required considerable chinking. For those who desire the rustic look, the flat log surfaces can be made to look hand hewn.
Ed L.
Posted by: cabindreamer at January 23, 2008 1:08 PM
I'm loving the blogs. So much diversity of ideas & I agree with almost all the leading votes so far.
I have a comment on the indoor fireplace. Wood is the only green fuel except for solar. There may be problems with regulations for solar panels & there is the high cost and possibly efficiency problems in this location. Gas (natural or propane) is not a green fuel and produces nearly as much CO2 as a standard sedan car per pound of gas burned. Wood is renewable and carbon neutral. Whether a tree falls and rots in the forest or is used in a sustainable way for firewood the amount of carbon released as CO2 is exactly the same.
The crux of the matter is efficiency, cost to operate, sustainability and pollution from smoke and other chemicals during combustion. Gas produces more chemical pollutants during its production and burning than wood and isn't particularly eco friendly. It's higher priced and will be much more expensive to maintain over time. If asthma inducing pollutants are to be addressed, I believe this should be a priority, then the design of the fireplace is the most important thing. An open wood (or even gas) burning fireplace is not good for the internal environment air. They can induce asthma and other respiratory problems. However, an enclosed wood fireplace using modern technology to eliminate the smoke and pollutants is the way to go here. Either wood logs or wood pellet fuel is cheapest and most eco friendly. A wood or pellet burning fireplace insert coupled with a blower system will easily heat the 2600sq ft of this cabin (and much more if needed). These units burn the fuel and the smoke and pollutants too and can reach efficiency of energy conversion into the mid 90% with next no pollution being released into the interior. They are almost maintenance free requiring very occasional light cleaning and inspection. There is no chance of gas leaks, carbon monoxide problems from faulty combustion and no chance of gas build-up from leaks during prolonged periods the cabin may be closed-up. There are versions of pellet and wood burning fireplaces that have instant ignition, timer controls and thermostats to control the amount of fuel reaching the combustion chamber. In other words they are as good as the best forced air central systems, more efficient and much more environmentally friendly. They also cost much less to run and require no gas lines to be run to the cabin and no chance of problems with gas supply. I would urge the design team to consider a wood pellet burning fire. These can even have permanent 'logs' to resemble a real log fire. They look chic and would be completely in keeping with the log cabin look. The fire can be seen burning brightly in the room so the cozy glow & warmth will be there but no mess and no pollution. The perfect compromise surely.
Posted by: Susan Dewey at January 23, 2008 1:13 PM
I love the floorplan, I'm just not a big fan of a powder room in/off the foyer. I'd love to see it hidden under the stairs.
Posted by: Carrie at January 23, 2008 1:16 PM
Hi Bloggers:
Been reading the post I missed becuase I couldn't find the right blog.
I still like the D-Logs
The gas fireplace needs to win, some states have already banned burning in wood fireplaces. Guess the one outside could be wood.
Scones a must for us older and some disabled bloggers, plus the won't blow in the wind.
Still pushing for things to help the disabled that will try to win this beautiful cabin.
I have seen walk in tubs and showers advertised on TV they would be nice.
I can't wait for the next items to voted on, didnt get to blog for the 2007 cabin, but watched it built. Great job DIY and Amy.
Have a great day and remember smile and the world smiles at you.
Mary from Lakehills Texas
Posted by: Mary at January 23, 2008 1:23 PM
Oh My Goodness! Oh My Goodness! Wouldn't it be wonderful to expand the porch idea Upwards....a porch off the loft area would add so much to taking full advantage of the incredible views this lot has to offer. Just imagine stepping out onto a second floor porch area to view the lake, and the star studded night sky. A tripod telescope out there would be such a nice addition, too. Plus, the roof overhead would allow for screening in the area (think reading a book or snoozing out there surrounded by nature without having hungry critters buzzing too close!)
And, the added bonus of a dry area off the Great Room downstairs would be created, thanks to the floor of the porch forming a ceiling below.
Oh My Goodness, can't you just imagine all the possibilities for memories that an upstairs porch creates.
Posted by: KateByTheLake at January 23, 2008 2:03 PM
This has been a Great experience. Thanks Amy and crew. Keep up the Wonderful work.
Posted by: Pamela at January 23, 2008 2:34 PM
I'm glad to see that a number of people agree with me that the log cabin should be built with round logs. I still think the fireplace should be gas logs but have read a number of suggestions to incorporate pellet stove inserts, which I think would be a great idea. I also noticed that several people agree with the porch lite being the sconce. I think that is the best choice for a log cabin. I'll keep watching and reading to see some more great sugestions.
Posted by: Donald Heerdt at January 23, 2008 2:59 PM
A few people keep mentioning that to be green you have to go with the wood burning fireplace because the wood is a replenishable source of heat. Have these people even considered the fact that trees are replenishable, but not at the speed necessary to be counted as a replenishable heat source.
Posted by: Sharon at January 23, 2008 3:09 PM
Yes to universal design! We are all one accident or illness away from needing universal design…and I would much rather heal in a cabin instead being in a nursing home because my house didn’t have access to a bed and bath downstairs.
These are the changes I would make:
Put the kitchen sink on the inside corner of the peninsula so that I could enjoy the view out the dining room window and still see into the great room.
Move the dishwasher to the right of the sink (so it sits between the sink and the refrigerator).
Move the range to the wall where the dishwasher was.
Put a prep sink in to the left side of the kitchen window.
Leave the bathroom in the great room because if you have guests you don’t want them tramping through the kitchen to use the restroom.
Put a tiny restroom with a pocket door where the W/D are.
Move the washer and dryer to the small room and add a big utility sink for washing dogs and cleaning fish.
Put the indoor fireplace where it won’t block the view.
Put the outdoor fireplace on the corner of the deck by the dining room and kitchen and bump the porch out around it…screened in, of course.
Upstairs, leave bedroom two as it is but have the bathroom open to the loft.
Remove the bathroom from the third bedroom.
Divide the third bedroom into two rooms so you have a small bedroom and a room to use for hobby, office, or guest room...that extra room means extra family or friends can stay.
If I could I would change my vote from wood to gas for both fireplaces..I should have read here before I voted ;-)
Posted by: hazel at January 23, 2008 3:50 PM
Realizing that it is still early in the process of designing the cabin, have you given any thought to pre-treating the soil at the site for termites? This is a common practice in Florida and seems to help keep the earth borne guys at bay for awhile. There are some relatively new options for treating for airborne termites during the construction process that would be worth utilizing. There are sprays for the interior framing and roof sheathing that seem tobe very effective. I assume that there are also products that prevent other wood boring insects, such as bees, from converting the cabin to their food and shelter.
For the purposes of sound containment it would be nice to have sound barrier insulation in the interior walls and ceilings. It is especially nice to isolate family rooms and kitchens from the sleeping areas. It is also good to isolate bathrooms and piping runs from the rest of the house.
With regard to the fireplaces, gas could work outside for ambiance and cooking. The interior fireplace should also be gas. One only has to look at areas like Vail, CO to understand the effect of wood burning fireplaces on the environment in hill - valley terrain. I beleive that there still is a ban on new woodburning fireplaces and stoves in Vail.
Posted by: Frank at January 23, 2008 4:10 PM
Wow! I think Clive has some very good points (post on the 22nd). Trees also grow faster in the south than in the northern regions (faster renewable resource). Votes seem to be driven with individuals already seeing themselves living here! Unless I was to relocate, this would be a vacation home and that impacts my decisions when voting. It makes me wonder how many bloggers are native to Tennessee. What do the seasons feel like living there? Design choices would change for me if it would be a permanent residence. Upscale vs rustic vs green? Age of potential resident could mean family vs retiree vs disabled. I lean toward what I call "cabin modern". All these factors and more are being represented in the voting. Can't wait to see how it all comes together.
Specifically, my thoughts today are the need for a screened in area for outdoor dining. Just imagine the mosquitoes off the lake! We built a home last year (in the woods) and do we need one. The bees last year were awful. Couldn't sit outside at all. We are screening the deck before summer!
Was also wondering about the water, septic and taxes for this property???
Posted by: Cathy P at January 23, 2008 4:11 PM
First, the log style. I voted for the 6 X 12 square logs mainly for the appearance. The round versions have never appealed to me and they just look like Lincoln Log houses I made when I was a kid. As I recall, the square ones with the dove tail cut at the ends, is the most weather-proof of the three. Quite frankly, if I won this place and it was made with the round logs, I would sell it immediately, that's how much I detest them!
Second, I voted for the gas fireplace even though I love wood burning ones. If possible, I'd like to see one of each somewhere in the house, but if not the reasons stated by another poster, such as, ease of use and allergies are some of the reasons why I prefer the gas fireplace.
Posted by: JC Thompson at January 23, 2008 4:13 PM
I would love to see an artist rendered drawing of the house sitting on the property. I love going to the 360 tour and viewing the land (it's gorgeous and fun to see!) However I am somewhat confused as to where the property begins and ends exactly. I get lost when circling the view and I can't figure out where and how the house will sit on the land. I know the front will be to the road and the back to the lake. Thats kind of a no brainer since you have more porch on the back. But I would like to see how and where the driveway lays also. I'm hoping for a double wide drive and a longer than normal one to accomodate company vehicles and boats etc. If there is a garage or carport? I'd also like to know how and where the drive comes up to the property and how big the lot is and how wide the house is? How much land do you have to work with around it for landscaping suggestions. If there is a basement or not? This will give voters a better understanding of how much room is around the house and how the back yard lays. How deep the water is? is it suitable for a fishing/swimming dock? or a boat storage dock? I loved the idea for a doggy proofed room in the house! You absolutely can not be home all of the time and you can't take them everywhere you go depending on weather and you don't want them to tear up your beautiful home or be a nuisance to neighbors or company! I suggest maybe a room with tiled floors and tiled walls high enough they can't dig at it. I would think a dog can't do much damage to tile when properly installed. And Maybe put it in an area with a doggy door access that goes out to a fenced in area to keep them safe but have access to everyone and the doggy bathroom (outside) when you are gone or busy. Our pets are big parts of our families too and need consideration when designing any home.
Posted by: Carrie Miracle at January 23, 2008 4:22 PM
I agree that the powder room needs to be closer to the the back door. I wouldn't want everyone crossing the greatroom to use the bathroom especially if they have been in the lake swimming.
I also think the extended deck with the fireplace should be off of the Kitchen, this is a lake home so entertaining would be a normal activity, along with cooking outside during the warmer months.
Posted by: Jody at January 23, 2008 4:59 PM
I WAS JUST AT A FRIENDS CABIN IN N.CAROLINA, HE HAD THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS FOR THE FIRE PLACE. A WOOD BURNING F/P, HOWEVER, W/A GAS LINE AS WELL. WORKED GREAT TO START A DAMP SNOW LOG AND ONCE IT STARTED TO BURN YOU JUST TURN OFF THE GAS.
HE ALSO HAD THE D-LOG WHICH I LIKED BECAUSE IT GAVE MORE OPTIONS AND EASE OF USE FOR THE INTERIOR. A FAMILY MEMBER HAD THE ROUND LOG YEARS AGO, IT WAS HARD KEEP UP, BECAUSE THE ITERIOR ROUND LOG COLLECTED A LOT OF DUST AND UNLESS SANDED SMOOTH WAS VERY HARD TO DUST/CLEAN. IT ALSO WAS NOT AS USER FRIENDLY WHEN IT CAME TO HANGING OR MOUNTING ITEMS.
Posted by: roger at January 23, 2008 5:17 PM
Make the cabin truly "green" and off the grid. No natural gas or propane appliances. Have everything run off electricity supplied by solar and wind power.
Posted by: Becky M at January 23, 2008 5:35 PM
OK Folks,
Hope this answers some of the questions I have seen.
Looking at overhead of property, Lake view of cabin faces East, Front view - West, Left side - North and Right Side - Sourh.
http://www.lakefrontestates.net/realEstate.html
Those that have mentioned that rough hewn square logs are correct for this area of the country, however those that mention that this property will be somewhat upscale are also correct. We like the D-Logs because we like the round look from outside but prefer the easier to maintain flat walls inside.
We are hoping that the covered porch will not have a "ceiling" per se but be open to the roof line. Motion sensors are available for either type of lighting as are ambient light sensors.
We love the suggestion for a walkout basement but not sure the angle of decent would support same.
We like the "owners" porch and fireplace off the Master suite but would like to see a larger deck area off the kitchen/dining area for outdoor entertaining/grilling. Really liked the idea some have had about a ground level patio off the rear deck in that area.
We like the washer/dryer where they are and think the "rear foyer" (per the floor plan) would make the perfect mud room while the room across from the W/D could be a combo laundry folding area AND a pantry area.
Love the idea of gas logs inside and wood burning outside but note, amenities for these homesites are underground water, sewer, electric, telephone and cable. Gas will require installing a propane tank on the property. Wish natural gas WAS an option, I MUCH prefer cooking with gas rather than electric personally.
As for boat docks... they mention private docks on the Lakefront Estates homepage. Not sure if this means that THEY will provide them or if it just means that you can have one. If it is the later we would hope that Ahmed & company will handle putting one in for us.
Also of note is the fact that one of the Community Gazebos will be almost directly in front of lot 5 so OUR big question is... just exactly where on the property will the cabin be constructed? Hopefully deep on the lot closer to the lake. With LOTS of trees between the cabin and the street.
Just our nickle and dimes worth ;-)
Rob & Tracey
Posted by: Rob & Tracey Brewer at January 23, 2008 5:35 PM
Why is it necessary to change the floor plans of the San Jacinto? I thought we were voting on the cabin we liked best--H-e-l-l-o...! Did I miss something here? The San Jacinto floor plans won over the others according to my computer. If we're changing it again, why did we even bother??!
Posted by: D from Down Home at January 23, 2008 7:50 PM
I have an idea for the bathrooms upstairs. I think you should take out one of the closets and extend the other closet and bathrooms to install a tub. Also the loft should be left open and have a place to just set back and enjoy the view.
Posted by: Scott at January 23, 2008 7:57 PM
You have certainly picked the cream of the crop for log houses. I personally chose the 6x12 flat logs but all are nice. If someone is in the area, stop in Clinton Tennessee and go through the model home. I think it is about exit 122 on I 75 north of Knoxville.
Posted by: Dan D. at January 23, 2008 8:40 PM
Absolutely Breathtaking!!! One idea stated on log style D was the flat inside for art work, and I totally agree. I have seen it both ways and are still beautiful. The peace and serenity on the outside would be warming to the soul on the inside as well. Your a great designer with so much creativity! Keep up the good work, everything is falling in to place through our viewer eyes. thanks for the fun!!!
Posted by: cheryl at January 23, 2008 8:43 PM
I haven't looked all that close at the entire floor plan and I voted yesterday for woodburning fireplace. I saw one comment about positioning the fireplace as to not block the lake view. The first thing you see when you come in the front door should be a fantastic lake view. The view will always be there, a fireplace may not be used all the time. I vote to leave the indoor fireplace out entirely.
I also think a walkout basement is a great idea. What better way to gain living or storage space especially on the lake.
I've dreamed of living on a lakefront property like this. What a great home this will make.
Posted by: Chris from Ohio at January 23, 2008 9:03 PM
Did someone suggest drywall? No No No No No drywall! The wood look on the inside is the reason you live in a log cabin. I'm with Tracy.
Posted by: Lisa at January 23, 2008 9:05 PM
I picked the gas fireplace because it is more allergy friendly and better for the atmosphere. I was unable to follow the 2007 cabin due to a serious illness in our family until the end...but the final outcome was awesome!
Posted by: KAREN at January 23, 2008 9:12 PM
We love the choice of the San Jacinto log cabin. We would like to see the outdoor area accessible off the kitchen/dining area instead of off the master bedroom so guests can reach it easier.
Posted by: Jane & Lance at January 23, 2008 9:26 PM
I just discovered the blog cabin. Great idea and great blogs. I didn't get to vote on the floor plan but the winner would have been my choice.
There seems to be a lively discussion on the wood v gas fire issue. I would have to go with a suggestion made by several other bloggers, namely, a modern enclosed wood or wood pellet burning fire or stove. Susan, previously, has explained the situation regarding the eco-friendly aspects of these against gas. My in-laws living in N Carolina on a similar type of lake opted for this in their 3500sq ft home. It's fantastic, clean, very warm, automatic ignition, thermostat control and looks really good in their great room. It costs pennies to run and heats the home really quickly. It uses about 2lbs of pellets per hour so the 45lb hopper lasts a good time and costs a few dollars to purchase a bag of pellets (available at all the local hardware stores). The home design is somewhat similar to the design here so I think the pellet stove or fire should be considered as a serious alternative. Also one of their kids has asthma and they have none of the problems with the pellet fire that they had with open log fires and central air.
Also, from their experience at least part of the deck must be screened unless you don't want to use it during the summer. The mosquitoes will be thick, especially near the water and there is really no other effective way of keeping them at bay.
Posted by: Warren at January 23, 2008 9:26 PM
this is exciting! but looking at the big view of the property- whats up on that hill?? how do u get to the property.. i would like to see some type of handicap accessible ramps included in this cabin.. will watch for more info.. what a great view from this property at the meandering lake!! hope u use some Adirondack chairs on those porches (can u tell i'm from Upstate New York)?
Posted by: Nancy at January 23, 2008 9:55 PM
I have written approximately six blogs to be posted on the boards and you haven't picked any of them. Am I writing something incorrectly, or am I boring, or do I need to approach this a different way? I feel I have added some very valid points having had years of lake front living experience, wood and gas log experience, and would like to know, for example, if this lake allows boat docks and things such as that. What should I do to get my blogs posted so I can participate? I am a normally shy person, so this is really making me feel odd, and I love the entire idea, the floor plan, the show, etc., and want to participate. Thank you. Sara J. Parsons
Posted by: Sara J. Parsons at January 23, 2008 11:49 PM
do you ACTUALLY read this blog?
if you do, do you REALLY listen to the people?
i saw some great suggestions in the blog a few times.
NO fire place(LOG home.!.)
NO drywall(LOG home)
elevator(older people and disabled people)
outdoor shower(dirt)
the list goes on&on.
this is SUPPOSED to be for the people, i know you cant make everyone happy but you could atleast ATTEMPT!!
Posted by: ADAM bailey at January 24, 2008 12:38 AM
hello.........why not just give the money to build the cabin ....from who ever you pick......that will save a lot of time .......then all of us dumb monkeys could get a life. oh yeah, Dont forget the chip board, all of your other shows feature it, prime and two coats of been there done that..lol
Posted by: unityroad at January 24, 2008 12:53 AM
Just thought I'd let everyone know that after reading Sara Jane's comment that she hoped that the owners of the 2007 Blog cabin could get in & out of the driveway that she doesn't have to worry. They concreted it all the way down to the cabin & put in a parking & turn around area. Much needed believe me!
This site looks much easier to access & I'm sure the various crews who will be working there are appreciative of that.
Can't wait to see what comes up next to vote on.
Lets get going!
Ninette
Posted by: Ninette at January 24, 2008 2:40 AM
Wow, so many experts! I do love reading what all the builders & those who have had log cabins write - this is really a learning experience. I like the comment someone gave about not doing anything too dramatic that would totally change the design. Keep the powder rm where it is, better utilize that room across from the laundry - either put the laundry in there (w/pantry where the existing laundry is) but put a couple of built in shelves or desk & narrow table for computer and for folding. I really have an advantage w/a central room for the computer. its often the hub of family life planning - education, vacation, communication to those far away. This would be an awesome place for family reunions!!!
Posted by: Therese at January 24, 2008 6:21 AM
I love to garden and a bathroom off the back porch so you don't track dirt in. also placing the fireplace between the greatroom and the master bed room would be awsome.
Posted by: shereen at January 24, 2008 7:46 AM
I agree with "C", I think there should be a sunroom off the master bedroom with built in blinds in the glass for privacy. Also the see thru fireplace out there and a hot tub. That would be the best master retreat area I can think of! Maybe even some soft lighting for the added effect. I'll post again with more ideas soon!
Posted by: Mrs Masales at January 24, 2008 8:52 AM
HI all:
First I thought I would vote gas fire place. Then I was thinking a gas fire place does not need the same set up as a wood burning fire place. And that if you had a wood burning fire place that you wanted to convert to gas it would be an easy task. How ever converting a gas fire place to wood burning would be both dificult and costy. So I reconsidered and have came down on the side of wood burning. As far as the logs I like the look of round logs, but also like to hang art and family photos on the walls. So the D logs seem the best of both worlds. Now the light is a bet different you see I have a hanging light fixture made of fake deer antlers that would look great there if I win. So I am voting for the hanging light.
Posted by: Keith at January 24, 2008 9:39 AM
Well, Ahmed and crew.....
You've got your work cut out for you. Please, please, please give us some guidance between Green building and Environmental building issues. I think we are trying to combine both in a Log Cabin(home) and reading through the many blogs there may need some clarification on our purpose. Especially since our blogger numbers have increased.
From what I read the Green qualities at with those items we put in our home to make it environmentally friendly. I like the idea of making this or following log cabin homes a self sufficient if the energy resources have been disconnected for periods of time. A friend in Erwin, TN had a backup generator and was nice for us when we were visiting her, but I am not sure if it is really energy efficient or green to have one of these. Are there other ways we can make the home self sufficient and be environmentally friendly?
Maybe we can have some articles/links throughout the blog that talks about Green Homes and being environmentally aware in our home. I know others would probably appreciate making us more savvy in the creation and selection of items in our cabin/home.
Thanks......
Posted by: Lynn in NC at January 24, 2008 10:14 AM
I love the floor plan but i love the idea of extending the porch! The more of the outdoors is always better. I am voting on the gas logs because i know the pain and the mess it is to keep wood for a woodburning fireplace. I live in North Carolina and i am glad to see that you have choosen the Appalacian Mountains to be the home of this cabin and the last one. Happy blogging everyone!
Posted by: rachel at January 24, 2008 10:25 AM
On the pendant V sconce debate I would like to ask the designers to consider the pendant utilizing a LED light source. This would give the more upmarket look of the pendant coupled with the most 'green', energy efficient and long lasting light source. Pendants attract less dirt and don't have the problem of insects getting behind the sconce to build homes and birds using them for nesting sites. I for one don't want to have to clean out a brown recluse spider nest from the back of the sconce. An LED pendant light will last upwards of 30+ yrs before needing a bulb replacement so effectively removing any need to 'get up a ladder' to do this. They also use a miniscule amount of electricity compared with all other light sources including compact fluorescent and are much more robust so concern about these high winds that seem to worry some people should be assuaged. Also, there would be much less pollution or danger of inhaled toxins should the light break compared to incandescent or compact fluorescent bulbs. They are surely the better choice for as many of the light fittings as possible in the cabin.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 24, 2008 10:33 AM
Hi all,
You say think green about the fireplace,but you need to think green and save the trees also.You can use died trees and what not, but you still would end up have to cut down the good trees also!!! You also need to save the trees for all they do. So thinking GREEN GOES BOTH WAYS!!!!!
Posted by: Gennie at January 24, 2008 10:42 AM
The more I read the blogs, the more I am convinced the floor plan should remain pretty much the same. We voted the San Jacinto in by a wide margin and then we pick it apart. There are about as many suggested changes as there are bloggers, so obviously, everyone can't be satisfied. We are certainly limited by the basic structure which means that many things have to be the way they are in the original plan, and it appears the architect did a pretty good job of designing a pretty livable plan while utilizing space to maximize storage. Certainly tweaks such as window placements, door locations, etc., are easy, but extended porches, basements and the like require a major redesign in a structure like this. One idea I saw was appealing to me and that might be to consider moving the great room fireplace to be between the foyer and the great room. it appears the foyer is wide enough and it would do a couple of things. More windows could be placed in the lakeside wall greatly enhancing the view, and a second fireplace in the loft area could share the chimney.
One thing we can all probably agree on is that DIY is going to build something that will make someone very happy. I just hope that it is not so extravagant that the winner cannot afford to keep it.
Posted by: Doug at January 24, 2008 11:05 AM
Boy, the blogs & ideas are getting better. I, too would love to see a wood FP. Some people have asked for gas. Here's a question: where would the gas come from. If it's Natural gas, I can't see that up in the mtns of TN. But, how about LP. Now, here's the kicker. Where would you place the tank, first not to be an eye soar, plus could the gas delivery truck get back to fill your tank. W/o any problems...Please fill free to comment on this.
Next, some bloggers were asking about direction of the cabin, How it's going to be placed. I would love to see the Master BR side, facing east. But, I do not know which way the view of the lake will be......
Next, why not have two bump outs, reduce the sizr from the Master BR side & add to the Dining Rm side.
French (Pella, would be nice) doors off the dining room, is a great idea, someone suggested.
Plus, could you not use the loft area, upstairs as part of your office.....
Just blogging my 2 cents worth....Thanks DIY
Posted by: Godfrey Little at January 24, 2008 12:20 PM
I live in a log home presently and we have the round style logs. There are extra places to caulk next to all door and window openings as well as anything else that is flat against the log. That being said, I still like the round log profile better than the other two styles. On our front porch, we have lighted ceiling fans and that might be a consideration for the pendant lighting.
I like the idea another suggested that the inside fireplace be gas log while using wood for the outside.
While we love our log home and where we live, we would love to win this lakefront home for our nearing retirement.
Posted by: William L. McDermott at January 24, 2008 12:33 PM
I once again voted for the round logs, the gas logs for the fireplace and the sconce for the lights. With the emphasis on going green, if there was any way to put solar panels on the roof, it would be great but with the trees all around I'm not too sure the panels would do very good. It would be worth looking into though.
Posted by: Donald Heerdt at January 24, 2008 12:45 PM
love the Blog Cabin voting. Thank you for listening to our ideas and suggestions. I have a few questions/suggestions of my own.
1. What is that room behind the kitchen and washer/dryer closet? I agree can we move the washer/ dryer in there and add a fold down ironing board and folding table?
2. Can you add a door from the great room to the porch this will avoid people have to go through the master bedroom to access the porch.
3.I agree with others about screening in the porch directly off the MBR and add a ceiling fan. I have been voting for gas logs inside but for the outside fireplace I would like the wood burning.
4.I also agree about adding stairs down the back porch area to access the lake.
5. I see doors leading down, I would see a basement. Like another commentor said it doesn’t have to be completely finished but at least rough in with electrical and plumbing already installed to make it easier for the winner. Also does the elevation of the land allow for this to be a walk out basement to the lake view?
6.The only change to the upstairs would be to add a bath tub to at least one of the bath rooms.
7. Also there is no garage what are the chance of adding an attached garage? The winters in can be chilly and who likes to scrape snow and ice off window shields? I know I don't.
Thank you for listening to my rambling.
Posted by: Deborah at January 24, 2008 12:45 PM
The comment about pets just blows my mind. We have a large lab (85 lbs.) that is part of our family and has never spend a night out doors. But, Max, knows how to behave. We have a doggie door that goes out to the pool and back yard. Its fenced but he has never done anything in our home and to keep a pet that tears up the house, I don't understand. We trained him from a puppy on the do's and don'ts. He is very playful and is a part of our family. But just like our children Max knows how to act. He is now 10 years old we go riding on our Harley for the day and Max is fine. He has the run of the house and can go out when he needs to. Yes, I feel very blessed to have a dog like Max but I feel the owner must take the time to train our pets just like we teach our children how to behave. I really don't know if I should post this or not but I just can't stand the thought of a pet being kept in a small room for a day. I would think maybe the pet gets bored in that small area and that is why they tear up things. I hope know one gets up set about this. Its just my feelings.
Posted by: Joyce at January 24, 2008 1:40 PM
So far the voting is going the way I prefer except for the fireplace. I really think that we should all think of the environment and go for the gas fireplace. Yeah, it uses gas, but it doesn't take down trees and blow smoke in the air...and yeah the house is made of trees, but one little move can make a difference, right?!
Posted by: Kathy at January 24, 2008 3:37 PM
Taking the bathroom out of the third bedroom and dividing the room into two rooms is a good idea. The smaller of the two rooms could be a laundry room. Carrying baskets of clothes up and down the stairs does not fit into the lifestyle of lakefront living.
Posted by: Pepper at January 24, 2008 4:17 PM
I live in a log home and it is the absolute best place to live! Some great suggestions have been made. I would like to contribute a couple of cents for what it is worth. I think the rear foyer, laundry area and what I presume is a pantry across from the laundry is a great beginning. Is there any way to enlarge that area to incorporate room for cleaning supplies, vacuum, brooms, etc. since this seems to be overlooked in most homes and these things just end up taking up room in a closet which is better used for other purposes. A large pantry is, in my opinion, essential. Regarding the fireplace, they are great for ambiance but the reality is they are expensive and will not heat much of the home. Wood is the best burning option. I just placed a Vermont Castings stove in my house. I have never been sooo warm. It heats the entire house and without the smell of burning wood. Additionally, I can use it like a fireplace, should I want. Please do consider this option. A bath entry off the loft would be great. Is there anyway to have the porch completely wrap around the house? Storage, storage, storage is essential - How about a full basement and if possible - make it a walkout. A portion of the basement could be used for storage and some of it finished for additional living space with a great view of the lake. One of the experiences I have had with a porch involves the wood used in the porch. Treated lumber will be good for a few years, but it is either left to weather or it is finished. Finishing it means having to repeat the process over the years. I would suggest using Brazilian walnut or chestnut. They are beautiful woods, insect resistant, rot resistant and hard as nails. They are also pretty much maintenance free when compared to other woods. Well, I could write a book, but I will wait for further information as the process continues. BUILDING THESE LOG HOMES AND TAKING INPUT FROM VIEWERS IS A TREMENDOUS IDEA!
Posted by: Nancy Bolin at January 24, 2008 4:27 PM
I would love to see large window seats in the windows that face the lake. A wonderful place to sit and admire the view and enjoy nature all year round.
Posted by: Rhonda at January 24, 2008 4:49 PM
Glad to see that you're putting extra steps on the living room fireplace deck which will be on the waterside of the four sides of the building. It would help me to provide further comment if I knew what direction that same waterside faced!
Posted by: Jesse Walters at January 24, 2008 6:09 PM
I have sent in several comments and none seem to be posted. Any reason why?
Vince
Posted by: vince at January 24, 2008 6:14 PM
The site for the new cabin looks great, it is a beautiful area. Is there a screened porch area for sitting and eating? This is very important when you are around water, bugs can be bad at times. I say yes to all the upgrades. The wood fireplace is a great ideal, there is always trees that need to be culled, this way they won't be wasted.
Posted by: Patty Wallace at January 24, 2008 6:58 PM
[Quote]hello.........why not just give the money to build the cabin ....from who ever you pick......that will save a lot of time .......then all of us dumb monkeys could get a life. oh yeah, Dont forget the chip board, all of your other shows feature it, prime and two coats of been there done that..lol[quote]
hey unity
if they just gave away the money, then they wouldn't be able to sell the products used to make it, then there would be no cabin to give away. perhaps you won't win a cabin, but perhaps you (or a new home contractor) wouldn't mind pay $50.00 for those SCONCES. After deciding on a WOOD BURNING fireplaces, you could you hop on down to fireplaces or us and have one built in your home for a very reasonable (cough) price.
Posted by: Trista at January 24, 2008 7:32 PM
Hey, I posted a few blogs on 1/23 (early) don't see em. Wazzupwidat? Post this at 7:10 pm CST 1/24.
OK, I voted for the San Jacinto too, but isn't the IDEA to BLOG in our thoughts? Then a concencious can be reached, a majority...and DIY will or will not add some/all of the majority ideas. The overall look of the San J will still be kept.
I'm hugely in favor of a basement. I read a blogger comment that this would cause a major change. How so? The log home/cabin MUST have a foundation. A basement is just another form of that vs. a slab, logs on top of rock pllars, logs in a dirt trench and a dirt floor ;)
I addressed a bunch of other stuff regarding cleanouts in the fireplace/chimney, but they didn't get posted. Maybe there's a delay. Hmmmm, maybe it's far more sinister, Big Brother...sorry, just my warped humor. - Kim Mc
Posted by: Kim Mc at January 24, 2008 8:19 PM
Fantastic Cabin Choice. Would suggest boat house for the boat. Wood burning fireplace is nice, but gas is better. Too much work when trying to have time to get away, not to mention the mess. Right type of fireplace will help heat the cabin. I have a gas fireplace in my cabin, in the basement and it basicly heats the whole cabin. Great job, look forward to seeing more.
Posted by: George Maddox at January 24, 2008 8:20 PM
the location for the cabin is fantastic! I think the front should face the lake and a screen porch is a must have living on the water. I voted for the square logs with chinking. The chinking, to me, creates the look of an original log cabin.
Posted by: mark at January 24, 2008 8:58 PM
About the porch building materials. There are woods that are better for the outdoor environment, but they are not local and problably end up coming from a rain forest far, far away making them a very un-green solution. There are many natural looking products that have a much lower environmental impact, that don't require annual maintenance to keep them looking as nice as the cabin exterior.
Could someone, who is a current log cabin owner or builder, comment on the effort and products required to keep the exterior of the logs looking good?
Posted by: Frank at January 24, 2008 9:54 PM
Good to see the wood fire is well in the lead. It's the only 'green' option. Sorry to disappoint some of the bloggers here but gas is certainly not a 'green' or 'environmentally friendly' fuel. Modern wood and wood pellet fires are almost smoke and particle free (less than 1 gram per hour emissions). With a well constructed chimney there will be no smoke or smell at all. There is no deforestation with sustainably harvested woodlands and pellet fuel is made entirely of sawmill waste. The rate of consumption of these fires is often less than 2 lbs of pellets or 3 x 18inch long logs per hour. Hardly deforestation. The trick is to ensure the wood supply is from a sustainably managed source (ask the supplier to show where it comes from), and that it’s seasoned for a year after harvesting. Yes, this does involve a little extra work but the rewards are in much lower heating costs, sustainable fuel supply and no carbon footprint. This is the heating of the future where solar isn't a viable option. The local area is dotted with managed plantations so a supply of wood or pellets should be really simple. Additionally, transport costs will be minimal which is certainly not the case with LPG or natural gas.
The greenest options in these three choices are the 6 x 12 inch logs which offer a better fit and lowest level of air leakage so require least fuel to heat. A modern wood log or pellet fire for the reasons I just mentioned and LED lights in the pendant or sconces. My choice is pendant but I can go with either so long as they use LED and not incandescent or even compact fluorescent which, although they consume less electricity than incandescent (but a lot more than LED's), are toxic if broken and need to be disposed of carefully.
Posted by: Susan at January 24, 2008 10:59 PM
I would like see the washer & dryer moved to the undeclared room across the hall adding making it a full laundry room.
I like the idea of an additional deck stairs on the lake side.
I too would like upper windows on the Great Room exterior wall.
I'd like to see to see the road side entry porch, and roof, extended to fill the area between the rear foyer and the master bath bump out.
Posted by: Dick in Louisville, KY at January 24, 2008 11:02 PM
I know you paid no attention to the suggestions for a walkout basement last year, but this lot does look sloped enough (hard to tell from photos.) Bet you could find sponsor(s) for the basement from a storage organizer/workshop or tool company to turn at least part of it into a workshop. Also, garage flooring company sponsor? You could have parking under there. We'd give up the stairs from back to ground---pretty please?
Also- windows flanking the chimney should be required for a house that makes such a focal point of that wall the second you walk in the front door. Looking down from the loft into the great room or accross to skies kissing the island across the water? Either triangular or trapezoidal windows would turn a claustrophobic feel into a marriage of earth, water, and sky.
I'm tickled at how we've managed to turn that little blank room accross from the laundry into the grand ballroom of the Titanic!
Thanks DIY!
Posted by: Connie at January 25, 2008 5:26 AM
It is so much fun reading everyones suggestions. I recently stayed in a resort in the pacific northwest and the bathrooms had tile floors that were heated, that would be a great idea especially when you get up on cool winter mornings.
Posted by: shereen at January 25, 2008 7:01 AM
I appreciate everyone's comments. I know the Blog Cabin will be wonderful. I want to request a heated walkout basement with some windows facing the lake view. A stairway could be placed underneath the existing stairway. This would eliminate the entry closet be would be well worth it.
Posted by: Ingrid at January 25, 2008 7:24 AM
To those that Know
Think about adding a screened in area on lake side for those nights you want to sit outside and not worry about the mesquitoes. If possible how about in floor heatine and one more thin that may be oushing the limit of budget how about a wind generator for making our own power. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Bill Deniston at January 25, 2008 8:01 AM
Great floor plan and location. One question? On the floor plan the master bath is around 328 sq. ft. and the master bedroom is about 185 sq. ft. is this correct? Shouldn't the bedroom be bigger?
Posted by: Greg at January 25, 2008 8:03 AM
Come on treekillers keep it up, we can't let the treehuggers win. didn't you see day after tomorrow, the gas lines will freeze, and we'll all be popsicles. in about 5-10 billion years the sun is gonna asplode and we'll have front row seats cause we had wood to burn.
GO WOOD FIREPLACE, YEAH!!!!!
ps to the diy builders, please consider centralizing said fireplace or making it double-faced. preference on centralized.
Posted by: Trista at January 25, 2008 8:07 AM
I think that alot of people really enjoy real wood fireplaces, however I personally don't see many willing to go out and cut their own logs. I suppose that you could buy the logs but if you were snowed in then a gas log fireplace would be alot better.
Posted by: Jeremy Williams at January 25, 2008 9:03 AM
Please no dock. Some bloggers want it but docks are rally a hassle and unless the winner or eventual owner wants to be saddled with big annual costs they are not worth the money: especially if there is a communal dock area for the whole subdivision. Docks are usually subject to a lot of additional local regs. and, of course, additional property taxes. In this lake, as in many others in this region, they need a boat lift which is an additional cost and maintenance hassle.
A dock would spoil the view of the lake from the back porch so interfere with one of the big 'selling points' of this cabin.
Driving piles into the lake bed will disturb sediments which may increase pollution in the lake as these sediments will contain PCB’s (once a big problem in this lake) and, possibly, radioactive elements. Remember this lake is downstream from the Oak Ridge facilities where most of the uranium and plutonium for the first decades of atomic weapons was manufactured and some of the waste is still stored. There were releases into the lake system years back and the sediments may well still contain significant amounts of this.
It should be easy to launch a canoe or small craft from the shore; a very limited dock platform or a small slipway but please no major construction. If a future owner wants it they can install at their cost rather than have to maintain something they don't want or have to spend a lot to remove. Also, from safety aspect docks can be dangerous for kids and people with mobility difficulties.
Posted by: Warren at January 25, 2008 10:03 AM
The view for this home site if beautiful. TN mountains are just the place to be. My sister-in-law and family live in Maryville.
I voted for this plan. Just maybe a few minor changes could be done.
I do think having a tub/shower in one of the upstairs bedrooms is great especially if you might have small children is is hard to give them a shower.
An additional powder room in the loft would also be nice so you are not always having to go into one of the bedrooms to use the restroom.
The inside fireplace could just be moved to the corner of the Great room on the same wall it is now that way you can open up the view to the lake.
I like the fireplace and porch off of the Master Suite but do make it screened in so you can make it a private porch for a romantic evening. A hot tub could be added to this porch.
I also like the idea of adding an outdoor cooking area on the Dining room side in order for entertaining. I think it would be nice to add pocket window doors on the dining area so you could open up to the outside for entertaining.
I voted gas logs less work to gather trees and save trees also. I'm sure you could hide the LP tank with nice landscaping.
The basement would be nice too for storage and future extra living space peraps even a place for the outside accessible bathroom. :-)
Posted by: Karen at January 25, 2008 10:12 AM
Hey Guys and Gals So far everything that I have voted for so far is winning! Yea! I would really love to win this cabin. I am not a picky person except for my kitchen I will definately be on to vote for that. I love the floor plan but Id like to see a mud room. Also the bath upstairs is ok but not with a big tub, how about a walk in shower I think that would be best. I also love the Idea about putting the washer and dryer in a more scenic area Ilove the sun.
Posted by: Vicki Dotson at January 25, 2008 10:16 AM
I'm so excited to be a part of this 2008 Blog Cabin! My husband and I came into the tail end of the 2007 show and didn't get to participate in the voting but we absolutely loved what DIY and the Bloggers built! DIY is our absolute favorite network on t.v. and (other than cartoons or the Disney channel)it's on all the time. I saw something last night that I thought would be a neat idea for this years cabin. They installed a ceiling fan with a radiant heater in the garage (they were using the garage as 2nd gathering place in the house)but I thought this might go great on the back porch. The fan would keep the air moving on hot days and the heater would exend your outdoor time in the fall.
Posted by: Eliabeth Kirchhof at January 25, 2008 10:37 AM
My husband and I got to see the 2007 Blog Cabin in person. I loved it. We also spoke to some of the local craftman who did work on it. The state of Tennessee is beautiful. We hope to move there soon.
The only thing that I would suggest to change on the 2008 is not the have such a dark colored floor because it shows dust and dirt too much!
Posted by: Pam Cheshire at January 25, 2008 11:10 AM
Wanted to make an informed vote on the log style, so checked the Barna website but not successful at getting the merits of different log styles. Quite a lot of maintenance required though, so voted for 6x12 square (Mt. Vernon look if finished) for perceived ease of maintenance.
Sure like the two fireplace option - gas for inside and woodburning for outside.
Going for the hanging light outside because I really hate fighting through the all those bugs congregating at the wall sconce beside the doors. Bugs are a problem for this area.
Posted by: Phil at January 25, 2008 11:28 AM
The more I look at the site the more convinced I am to avoid basements of any kind.
There is a considerable slope both behind and in front of the cabin site (at least what looks to be the cabin site). There are at least two gullies one behind and one to the side indicating seasonal watercourses. With the hill and slope from the road down to the site and the clear evidence of seasonal water movement down the hill on that side water will tend to pool in the flatter area of the cabin site. I believe a basement will present major problems in construction and for future owners.
Water always seeks the path of least resistance and will punch holes through steel shuttering & poured concrete as easily as block basements. The water pressure off the slope against the uphill side basement wall will be incredible and it will need a very expensive and complicated construction to prevent seepage into a basement. A better construction would be a vented crawl space to allow excessive water to pass through, if necessary, without damaging the floors or foundations.
For storage an attached shed or similar building should be considered. You can never have enough storage space. Built in the same log fashion as the main house it could house all sorts of things high and dry including wood or wood pellet supplies for the fire, yard tools and machines, ATV's, canoes and other water 'toys' all at the same level as the yard so no steps and no problems of access for most people. Gutters can channel water into storage tanks (above or below ground) for use in yard watering etc. in the summer months when it will be dry. Also this will avoid flash floods down gutter downpipes washing into the yard and sweeping topsoil into the lake. The same goes for the main cabin gutters and rainwater channels also.
PS. Dear design team.
Would it be possible to have a few more details of the proposed site such as approximate size/shape of the plot, proposed position of the cabin and the topography of the land nearby? Even some idea of water depth out a little way from the lakeside and whether the water edge is natural or man made i.e. 'rip-rap'?
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 25, 2008 11:31 AM
Thanks to Rob and Tracey I went to the correct web page and saw exactly where lot5 is. It was really great being able to see and helped me understand the lake view much better!
It is a wonderful lot and looks really easy to get in and out.
Once again thanks Rob & Tracey!
Joyce
Posted by: Joyce at January 25, 2008 12:51 PM
I really love the San Jacinto design and Especially the covered deck with the outdoor fireplace. I was wondering if there might be consideration given to solar panel shingles for the roofing ? Though I am not sure where to acquire these, I do know they have been developed.
I do so hope they clear the minimal trees possible. I have seen far too many lakefront properties completely destroyed by clearcutting the entire properties.
Having grown up in a lakefront home , it is really nice to have some sort of additional storage for a lightweight boat, fishing, and/or swimming gear. So, I hope even an unfinished partial basement with some sort of easy access to the water might be an option. The utilities room could be located in the basement, providing more room for the main living areas above. And it would give the lucky winner the option as to how to finish off the rest of the space. Extra space is always a plus.
No need for a lawn please ! Personally I would not want to be mowing a lawn on such a naturally beautiful piece of property.
Wow ! a lot of input for gas vs log fireplace. As I might hope for a gas stove and appliances. Perhaps whatever is the most evironmentally friendly, economical, and energy efficient option for the area might be the best answer. The outside fireplace should definetely be wood though.
What a beautiful and wonderful home for some lucky person. I can hardly wait to see the work starting on this one. Thank You DIY !
Posted by: Bob at January 25, 2008 12:54 PM
I love this new log house plan.... is just right for a retirment home ..the right space for the kids to visit and the right space for my husband and I to enjoy our retirment life...and the right space for my doggie to enjoy his pastime as well..
chasing the live stock....thanks diy and hgtv...i'd really love to win this one...
Posted by: karolyn iyer at January 25, 2008 1:08 PM
I totally agree with what whawkins (Blog Editors Note: I didn't write this, entry authors are cited below the entry, not above it) wrote on at January 15 above:
It would be beautiful to place the fire place as a double sided fire place, between the foyer and great room... this would open up the view of the lake to a full wall of windows and make that view a separate focal point.
Since the lake and water are the focal point here of this beautiful home, why would you try and hide them behind a big, chunky fireplace?
MY SUGGESTION:
Move the fireplace to the wall between the Dining Room and the Great Room. Make this a double sided fireplace so diners can enjoy while eating and loungers can enjoy while in the Great Room.
And looking ahead, although a real fireplace is romantic, anyone who has ever spent a Saturday or Sunday afternoon cleaning out a real fireplace knows, bending over, shoveling ashes, getting the floor and yourself full of soot is a hassle. The idea of the lake house is to relax and enjoy the place, not have to perform maintenance, especially when gas logs provide the same look and feel without the mess.
Posted by: SCOTT at January 25, 2008 1:32 PM
The San Jancinto is perfect for the location and for its style. The sconce lighting is better.The winds wpould play havoc with a hanging light.The sconce is secure and easy to change bulbs. I would like to see the master bedroom increased to at least 16x16 feet. Moving outward toward the outdoor fireplace. The master bath changes I would like to see is to move or exchange the location of the half bath with the master bath closet and shower. Square off the old half bath and enlarge and specially organize the one walk-in closet to include drawers, folded sweater pocket areas, shoe rack, bench. The width should be at least 10 ft wide so I would move the wall around the 2d flr support placed there. The other side walk-in I would add the water closet toliet and a urinal for men and boys. The half bath is at the entrance for guests. Increase the width of the outer master bedroom and bathroom wall and put a walk in steam shower enclosure next to the "out in the open tub". I too would widen the Foyer porch, if not for cosmetics. Another thing is I would remove the closet by the stairs and make a door under the stairway and open up the area to display the stairs or change the stairs to a U type. A U-type stair is divided and easier for young and old to walk up and down without breathing difficulties. I would leave the washer and dryer where they are at but add a ironing board to the wall facing it. If your looking out of a window ironing [and who irons much these days] you are not working, leave it be. I find the kitchen is small and too compact for real enjoyment. Why do we have a deck on the side? Wasted space, if you ask me. The kitchen would look better if extended outward to where the deck was. Need a center island as well as working counter space on the side of the stove. Mimimize the old style ceiling to counter cabinetry by having a large one stop pantry for food. Put a small cabinet next to the refrigerator for glassware and plastic ware. Install a pull-out spice tray or rack next to the chef grill stove on the outer wall and move the sink to face the rear foyer porch shortened area with a window. And 9 ft is awfully compact for the size table needed to accommodate a large place like this. Remove the wrap around wasted-space porch and open up the dining area moving the door to the screened area around the fireplace [lengthen that screened are to the fireplace area. Bugs and Mosquitos and Bees are terrible there. Upstairs I agree needs at least one bathtub, just make sure it's supported and increasing the downstairs will give more room upstairs, and room for the tub and more closet space too. Thanks for the opportunity to support this. It is a dream.
Posted by: Harry at January 25, 2008 1:49 PM
I like the idea another suggested that the inside fireplace be gas log while using wood for the outside too.
Posted by: Harry at January 25, 2008 1:53 PM
I don't know if this topic has been covered yet but I see the hanging light has more votes than the sconces. If this location is in a windy area, I think the sconces to be a much better choice than a hanging light on the outside of a cabin. Therefore I must vote for the sconces.
Posted by: Emory at January 25, 2008 2:06 PM
Currently we live in a 12" round log home and love it. However, as many have stated, I can only hang things on the interior sheetrock walls and in the loft where we have stick-built dormers for more ceiling height in the master bedroom and loft sitting area. I had to get much more creative with my decorating rather than just stick a bunch of pix up as we did in our regular stick-built home. Also keep in mind that your decorating has to be bigger; those high ceilings make everything look smaller. My one complaint has been "not enough storage/closet space!!!" Because we live in it fulltime, and most log homes seem to have been designed for vacationers or people w/o kids, I've been forced to buy a clothes wardrobe for the basement, because I turned the coat closet into a pantry. Since we live half an hour from a full-service grocery store, we tend to buy in bulk, and you need to have room for the stuff. We finished this ourselves after the kit was put up sans roof, windows, doors, and interior walls. It has now been five years, and we're still finishing it, so I'm hopeful that, once the construction materials leave the basement garage, storage units will be installed. We planned for retirement, so there is a master bedroom in the loft and on the main floor. Once the stairs are too much, then we move to the main floor, where we have a laundry room/bath between the kitchen and bedroom.
Posted by: Suzanne at January 25, 2008 2:19 PM
Where will the owner park their cars? Is there to be a garage? I would like to see an enclosed garage, but that may not be possible with the plan. I know it is a little early for this, but please NO CARPET!!!!! I prefer hardwood floor or tiled floors. Area rugs are fine--but no carpets please--not even in the bedrooms.
Betty
Posted by: Betty at January 25, 2008 3:06 PM
Hi Joyce
You are right about pets needing trained just like our children do. I suggested this doggy room after reading other bloggers comments and thinking about my own families pet experiences. We are trying to remodel our bathroom which we use as a kennel when needed. The dog scratches at the door! Other than that I have a well behaved pet (who just turned 12 years old) and small children(3 yrs old of my own( niece & newphew, 4, & 6)in my family, who sometimes get rough with one another & dog (so trust me it goes either way: pet or child interaction). One or the other may get hurt/possibly bit and need a time out from each other. The best solution is remove the dog: But my mom n law got my dogs brother and he's more spoiled as in going bye bye & tears the house up, when they decide to leave him home alone (he gets upset) and he (the dog) usually don't like small kids. Especially the smallest who don't get how to be kind to pets yet! My inlaws can not go anywhere and won't leave the dog at home alone or in the kennel for fear he or the house will suffer. So in some cases, in many families, like ours, a separation from pet and children become necesary. No question people love both pets and children very much, that's why people keep pets even when they are bad habited pets, but sometimes with old well behaved dogs or badly behaved dogs, they change ( by getting grumpier, less patience, jealousy) with age and you have to be more careful! The reason I think people have suggested the pet proofed room is that animals are like people, they have emotional issues(mood swings) also that cause them to change or behave badly at times and having a safe personal place for them (time out away) from people who have fears of animals or animals with people problems could be a good idea! Even though it seems unfair or cruel to some people. They still are part of the family: just think they are in the home with access to people: not chained to a dog house where they see u but don't have people interaction. Now animals chained that's cruel to me. I think it could be a good idea for a room doggy proofed and no sweetie you did not affend me. You have a right to your opinion and you are right from your pet experience/side of the story. But for others a doggy proofed room would answer to problems.
As for the upstairs rooms I personally love the house voted for but this is a blog where bloggers get to help design the house they want built! That's why people are blogging & imagining the home of their dreams being built for them and voicing their opinions! It's fun to dream design we all want a new home of our own and this may be the only way a person can express that desire! Because many of us do not have the money to build a new home. That's why so many of us have an opinion of how they would like the house changed.
So here is what I was thinking about the upstairs loft space. It seems to me it has several options:
Idea 1: It is big enough to include a jack and jill styled bathroom connecting bedroom 2 & the loft by a jack-n-jill bath with a shower/changing room in between bedroom 2 and loft having a shower/changing room w/lockable doors in between the two 1/2 baths, making sure to have sink/mirror access in all 3 areas. On the other side of the loft have a (2nd)king capacity stacked washer/dryer (to wash the big comforters or sleeping bags)& a storage closet for linens and extra guest clothes accessable to the loft area.
Like others have said: it is extremely hard carrying large loads of laundry up and down the stairs which would no doubt give you plenty of good exercise but hard work, I believe having a 2nd washer/dryer combo upstairs would make life so much easier for everyone! But please keep the washer/dryer down stairs also.
I have 2 more suggestions for the loft room area:
Suggestion 1: The loft area could be used as the children's hang out for games, toys & play stations, x boxes, rainy day family entertainment & kids sleeping room. I suggest a couple of pull out couches & pull out chairs in there & a round table with 4 or more chairs.
Suggestion 2:
Girls vs Boys:
Divide The loft space itself in 1/2. It could be divided by a wall right down the middle with a jack and jill bath at end wall where the other bedroom baths are already & be used for the kids play/sleeping area all together with built in bunks on the dividing wall.
Suggestion 3
Bedroom 3
If the loft space is used as b/g bunk rooms this br3 could still be used as a 3rd adult bedroom: If loft used as a family room: Use this space as a kids bunkroom -built in bunks all around the room a tub/shower combo in this bath would be handy for small kids baths. Toss them all in at once! Just joking! but you all know you have done it! This room over the kitchen where the noice level would be less noisy to the owners suite downstairs. Would be great for the kids for sure! Gotta go blog later have fun dreaming!
Posted by: Carrie Miracle at January 25, 2008 3:34 PM
GO SCONCES, GO SCONCES, IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY, IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY.
if you had rounds or D logs you use them in your WOOD BURNING fireplace in the event of an emergency. just take a nip or two off of the sides. oh and how 'bout planting an acorn with a fish caught from the lake for each one you chop down as firewood.
Posted by: Trista at January 25, 2008 3:36 PM
On checking LakefrontEstates home page they don't list gas in the 'amenities' page. Does this mean that there is none and therefore any gas appliances in the cabin would have to be LPG? If so then there will need to be a big tank set somewhere on the property which will not be pretty. Also, LPG is even less 'green' than natural gas.
Go for a 'green' & environmentally friendly modern wood log or pellet burning fire or stove. No mess , no fumes, no clean-up and no big tank of gas in the back yard with all the regulations that cover it and the extra maintenance. Plus, save a bundle on heting bills.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 25, 2008 5:38 PM
Sarah Parsons,
You should repost your ideas. I'm sure they'll lend to the discussion. I think the blog got back logged over the holiday weekend. I've barely had time to do more than scan the blogs from that weekend.
I simply read enough to know that the gas peops seem to be gaining on the WOOD folk (come on WOOD advocates, keep your eyes on the prize) and to be completely perplexed by the continued success of the hanging hazards over the elegant traditional SCONCES.
So come on Sarah, tell us what you really think. I won't even mind if you disagree with me (as long as you vote my way :D).
Posted by: Trista at January 25, 2008 5:55 PM
I don't get a chance to read the blog comments often because of time, so some of my ideas may actually have already mentioned...
I think the porch should swap around 180 degrees and the outside fireplace and covered deck be an extension of the kitchen.
I think the room behind the kitchen and the back foyer should all be one room for to be used as mud room and laundry "suite".
I'm not sure what the plans are for the loft right now, but it would make a really cool "rustic lounge", for home office, internet cafe, study area.....
It definitely needs more storage so if a basement is feasible, by all-means add one.
Thanks for the oppotrunity to put in my thoughts and for coming up with this awesome concept for a show.
Posted by: beth lewis at January 25, 2008 6:02 PM
Joyce,
It's nice to know that at least one other blogger actually reads what others have to say. You're welcome for the link.
A few more things that others may not have noticed or understood.
1. While the upstairs bedrooms appear to have 4 closets each, 2 of each being "W.I.C" walk-ins, ALL of these walk-ins are only 10.5 or 12.25 square feet each. In other words they are ALL only 3'6" deep and 2 are 3' wide with the other 2 being 3'6" wide. None of which I would consider a walk-in. The other 4 closets are not. They are storage areas in the knee walls on either side of the rear dormers. That means they will also only be about 3' tall (give or take a few inches).
2. Whether there is a walkout basement or not... there are stairs leading down from the main floor in the plans. Notice the door on the floorplan for the main floor. Yep, that's the one, right there at the end of the bar... see it? At the corner of the great room? That big thing swinging out of the angled wall with the hinges on the right side... yeppers... that's a door alright and lookee there... a set of stairs leading down right there smack behind that there door... wonder where they go???
3. Don't get me started on whoever looked at the measurements for the master suite and figured the master bath is bigger than the master bed. Gotta kinda read between the lines here folks. The measurements for the master bath being 19'6"... if you take into account that is from the wall behind the double vanity to the wall behind the toilet in the WC. And 16'10" if you go from the bumpout behind the tub to the outer walls of the closets that makeup one wall for the bedroom. I'm guessing here... but I think the blank area behind the walk in shower is probably the wet wall supplying lines for the 2 upstairs baths.
Okay... I'm done with my soapbox for today... CYA next time... same bat time... same bat channel...
Rob & Tracey
Posted by: Rob & Tracey Brewer at January 25, 2008 6:46 PM
I live in central Florida and a couple of years ago we were hit by 3 major hurricanes in six weeks! While some people had phone and electric service in a day or two, we had no phone or electric for almost two months. Most of us don't think it can happen to us, it's something you see other people living through on TV. I think anything you could do to make the cabin self suffient would be a plus. The idea of planting new trees for each one you cut down is a good idea. I would be interested to know what people from other areas hit by natural disasters think. I know there are many places that havd had it much worse than we did.
Posted by: Lynn at January 25, 2008 6:56 PM
I'd like to suggest a specific fireplace. Fireplace Extraordinair makes a built in fireplace that is wood burning and is a VERY efficient unit. www.fireplacex.com/ is the manufactures website. The 44 elite woodburner would be awesome in the new Blog Cabin. It is an efficient and effective way to heat a home.
As others have mentioned, if a gas fireplace is the winner, this same company offers a direct vent gas fireplace that would be a very nice and efficient solution for heating this home. The 44DVXXL is incredible. The company I work for sells both of the fireplaces I have mentioned and we even use the 44DVXXL to heat our showroom.
Both of these fireplaces have blowers and will provide plenty of heat.
With the price of natural gas and propane on the rise, it may be best to have a wood burning fireplace inside and out.
Any comments
Posted by: Walker at January 25, 2008 7:34 PM
Watson could you number each comment so we know where we left off from reading the blogs? When we don't have time to read them all or have to get back to the real world asap. That way we know where we were when interupted: it saves us time and we don't have to search through again.
Posted by: Carrie Miracle at January 25, 2008 7:44 PM
hi everyone,
read a few blogs tonight and some of them have the same beef i do this is my 4th blong and ive only seen one of them and it was only 3 sentences at that,,,,i do feel it unfair...i write short blogs and i see people writing books and getting posted...whats up with that ? i dont mean to be nasty about it but it does discourage me a little.
after all i have opinions too.
well the only thing i added which would be nice are hide away doors,they add class to already a classy home!having the washer and dryer near the kitchen would be great...as they say everything in its place and a place for everthing.....
tell you what thi i would not have a problem waking up to that view,especially we love to boat ,fish and swim
well thats all for now ...looking forward to seeing this posted and reading everybody elses
margaret
Posted by: margaret shannon at January 25, 2008 7:55 PM
I voted for the Square Logs looks more modern, if you have a gas fire place no need to pack those logs into the house. i think the sconces give a cleaner look.
Posted by: Travis Smith at January 25, 2008 8:21 PM
With Sconces as many bloggers have said spiders and etc. nest behind sconces and they have to be cleaned out. I for one don't want to be doing that if I win.
Oh, the web page also said the lot is .72 acre.
Joyce
Posted by: Joyce at January 25, 2008 8:46 PM
I haven't seen anyone post anything about my last comment about using solar panels to help with the electric. I have noticed a lot of people are questioning the possibility of a basement and I totally agree. It would be a great area for storage and also could serve as a storm cellar in case of severe weather (which happens frequently in TN.)
Posted by: Donald Heerdt at January 25, 2008 10:17 PM
A basement could open up a whole new world of dreams. Another bedroom/bathroom, a large mud room with utility sink/shower, for keeping the dirt out of the upstairs. Maybe even a game room.
Posted by: Rhonda at January 25, 2008 10:57 PM
Has anyone figured out the square feet of living area in this floorplan? Looks like a great plan but the master bedrooms seems a bit on the small size.
Posted by: cavaliergirl at January 25, 2008 11:26 PM
I just found this Blog cabin I wasn't part of the last cabin but I found it quite interesting. I started just today voting on the log style and the fire place type and the porch light. I agreed with two of the three this is going to be fun.
Posted by: Butch Karnes at January 25, 2008 11:39 PM
I have tried to post several times but to no avail. So lets try again....
The 8" logs are a must for a true Tennesse Cabin! I would like to see the foot print of the cabin overlaid with an arial shot so I cold get a better idea of how it will sit on the lot. Google Earth where are you?
Posted by: Vince Baer at January 26, 2008 12:20 AM
Due to lack of time available to search and hunt through this web site for weeks,I finally found the "blog". I found the floor plans one evening, but have not seen them since. What possibility is there that someone could direct one to directions as to how to participate or give me some instruction as to how this "works". Could not find any other place to ask the questions. Do you have to read through all of these comments to reach the "Post a comment" space.
Round logs are more realistic and true to the nature of a log cabin. The "d" logs would certainly provide a flat surface if wallboard, cabinets,etc. is hung.
Due to allergies or other respiratory challenges the gas logs would certainly provide a less air polluting source of heat. It can really be cold in this area and instant heat "on" might be more desirable than attempting to build a wood fire. The cost of transporting the wood would be an additional factor vs the higher cost of a gas. The property does not appear to be located in a forest where wood would be available.
Posted by: Lost to Found at January 26, 2008 1:17 AM
First off, THANKS to Rob & Tracey, for the correct website to Lot #5. As U can see, there really shouldn't be any trouble w/ delivery of LP Gas. And someone did mention w/ the correct landscape, U can hide a (big) propnae tank.
I, also would suggest a TANKLESS water heater!!!!!
yes, instant & ongoing HOT water...woo hoo
And, if U go to the website, U would see docks, already provided. So, U really would not need a private dock. If U are thinking green, save the water & surroundings, too....
I love reading everyone's great ideas (& blogs), so I'm sure the design & constructing crew will be taking (hopefully), some of the suggestings. I do love the lot, but like another blog, would love to see more of how & where the cabin will be standing on it's foundation........
So, keep blogging & thanks to DIY
Posted by: Godfrey Little at January 26, 2008 9:07 AM
Love the floorplan and would like to see a french door in the master bedroom that leads out to the cover porch. A detached garage would be nice with a breezeway attached to the house.
Would the kitchen be large enough for an island? Even if it was mobile it would be an asset for all those that cook and bake.
Can't wait until we can vote again for future features of this home.
Posted by: Randy and Nancy at January 26, 2008 9:08 AM
I too would like to see all hard wood floors. NO CARPETS!!!!! In addition that would really top it would be the efficiency of radiant heating which is by far energy saving. I think in the kitchen and the bathroom floor ceramic tiles with the radiant heat would be a very good choice. I am still hoping that the gas heating in the Living space area will be done :-) There are wonderful gas heaters for fireplace such as Comforter Glow that heat 1300 cubic feet and more. So these gas heater are very much clean and efficient for keeping a house warm. The other plus to this is, if there is power outage in the area in the winter, these heaters do have their own electric element to start the fireplace. Let keep the wood for outside, and keep the house clean and cozy. Happy Blogging!
Posted by: Going South! at January 26, 2008 9:38 AM
I love reading the blogs. I have learned alot from them. I thought a gas fireplace would be greener because of air pollution. Apparently not so. Thanks!! Still voting for the SQUARE logs. Please keep laundry on first floor. Children can carry their own laundry upstairs. I personally don't like to spend alot of time doing the laundry. Now the kitchen is another story. I think views should be reserved for living spaces- areas where the most time is spent. I live in the Northeast but my father grew up in Sale Creek which is about 25 miles south. This area is so beautiful. Rhea County is the location of the world famous Scopes Trial- Inherit the Wind. Lots of history here.
Posted by: Jenny at January 26, 2008 10:12 AM
Has anyone considered using some kind of solar power? I didn't read all the comments so I don't know. Also, the hanging lights are almost impossible when it comes to changing light bulbs.
Posted by: Kelli at January 26, 2008 10:19 AM
REMEMBER everyone, this is a community. So we need (and have to abide by the rules). So, some of our ideas might not be capable, due to the COMMUNITY, where DIY has the property. But, here is a list of Amenities:
2,000-square-foot Community Clubhouse with kitchen and great room for entertaining.
Community and privately-owned boat slips for convenient access to Watts Bar Lake.
Three community gazebos for picnics, family gatherings or relaxing surrounded by the beauty of the lake.
Stacked-stone entrance with double gates for privacy and security. The handsome stone walls adjoin white picket fencing along the perimeter of the property.
Paved walking and jogging trails and common areas throughout the property are perfect for socializing with neighbors or to peacefully commune with nature.
All the roads at the Lakefront Estates are paved and curbed and lighted with water and sewer. Underground utilities include telephone, electric, and cable.
So, it's not has bad as all that....
So, let's keep blogging and hopefully, our ideas will be USED.....
Posted by: Godfrey Little at January 26, 2008 11:15 AM
oh hey, i remember back in the day, my aunt and uncle used to burn coal in their fireplace. so you wouldn't be restricted to wood only in a WOOD BURNING fireplace.
[quote]oh and how 'bout planting an acorn with a fish caught from the lake for each one you chop down as firewood.[/quote]
one = tree in case that was unclear.
ps SCONCE!
Posted by: Trista at January 26, 2008 11:25 AM
Hi Bloggers and DIY team.
I see that wood fireplace is winning. Oh well I guess the winner can change it to a cleaner and healthier one if they win. Wood is very messy, the pellet idea was great.
Now as far as the lighing that will be harder to change whe the owner realizes that the lighting will be danaged in the blowing wind much less harder to change light bulbs.
Still waiting to see if the need for the disabled or elderly will be addressed. Like I said before a ramp to get in and the new walk in tubs and shower that I see advertised would be nice.
Great blogging y'all
Mary from Texas
Posted by: Mary at January 26, 2008 11:58 AM
Hey DIY,
CHANGE ORDERS...
Can we have...
EXPOSED BEAM CEILINGS throughout...
KING POST, PURLINS, etc. in the great room...
FULL LOG GABLE WALL in the great room...
use ROPE for some of the FINISH TRIM throughout...
UNFINISHED WALK OUT BASEMENT, with full bath rough-in...
KEEP the laundry room on the first floor...
move the kitchen PENINSULA to the opposite wall...
WOOD and TILE FLOORS--NO carpet...
UPSTAIRS BATHROOMS--one with tub, one with shower...
MASTER bath--BIG SHOWER...
move the fireplace portion of the porch to the OTHER SIDE of the house...and SCREEN IT IN...
FIREPLACES...GAS inside, WOOD outside...
PORCH lights--hanging pendant on the small front entry porch, and SCONCES and CEILING FANS with lights throughout the large wrap around porch...
Thanks DIY!
CabinScraps
Posted by: cabinscraps at January 26, 2008 12:15 PM
hello diy, you have a comment posted with my name on it (the dumb monkey one) I DID NOT WRITE THIS, I WOULD NEVER BE SO RUDE, so please take my NAME off the message please. thank you very much, Patty wallace
Posted by: patty wallace at January 26, 2008 12:46 PM
When it comes to the two lighting options, from an electrician, I have these comments. Although the hanging chandelier looks rich and sophisticated it really isn't very practical. Sconces offer a really simple option with ease of changing bulbs and initial installation. However a really like sconces that offer indirect lighting rather than "in your face" lighting. This is important when you have guest approaching the front door so the don't get blinded and secondly it really shows off your front door and exterior not hide it.
Posted by: Jeff Morse at January 26, 2008 1:24 PM
1/26 11:22 AM CST
Just repeating my blog, wasn't posted last time.
I (still) suggest a walkout basement, w/french doors and/or sliding doors for views/access. Rock covered exterior, were exposed. Have the chimney go all the way down to foundation footer level. That way a fireplace can be in basement/bar/rec area..put two flues in chimney. Nice decorative cap on ALL chimneys..nice look AND to difuse sparks too, if any, I'd think. As far as water/runoff issues, I'm sure the build team AND Ahmed Hassan will address that. Ahmed is a landscape expert..right up his alley!
Re: Logs. You can buy or make a outdoor log holder, you buy a 1/2 or full cord(sp) of wood and have it delivered.
Re: Woodburning fireplace mess. Chimneys/firebox can have cast iron clean out doors. Main floor ashes can be dumped thru firebox/hearth floor and then cleaned out from outside home via doors on backside of chimney...builders know what I'm talking about. Bloggers, you've seen those little square doors on peoples brick chimneys before. (Save the ash to make lye soap - for the Greenies ;)
I like the suggestions to extend the rear window, flanking the chimney, up higher. Would improve the view from main floor, and definately from loft area.
Diffusers vs. gutters? Any thoughts bloggers? Collecting rainwater in a cistern for lawn/garden watering. If so any ideas how to pump it up/out to use it? - more Green thoughts
Don't know about solar roof panels - enough light w/trees? Since it is a somewhat high end area, probably has to look nice/blend, if allowed.
Come on! This place is on a HUGE lake! Gotta have a boat..BASS BOAT, it's Tenn., Bill Dance will come over and beat tar outta ya, if ya don't have a boat. Gotta have a dock or boathouse for that boat. Darn the PCBs and radium, full speed ahead. Just don't eat the fish - catch and release - see that's kinda Green!
I still say closet space and bedrooms are a tad shy. Those 3 upstairs are only like a square yard each. 3 x 3.6 is hardly enough room to turn around! I like others calling for more kitchen room/island.
I agree with the hardwood/tile/stone floor folks. No wall to wall carpet. And yes, heated stone/tile bathroom floors.
Oh, and I LOVED that shower deal you put in last years cabin/home..the all around thing and the stone/tile job. Do that again. I REALLY want that in MY log home ;).
Some of that local stuff again too. Some of the carving, actually more than last year. ANd somebody blog'd about a waterfall element. I saw some beauties out in Leavenworth, WA, neat town in the Cascades. VERY COOL IDEA! THe sound and sight is SO soothing, beats TV!
Here's one for ya! A sod roof, with goats on it! This place in Sister Bay, Door County, WI has a restaurant, Al Johnson's in a awesome log home..with a sod roof and goats! But seriously, wish there website had pictures of the log building they have. Ther'e all these realy neat carvings (Swedish/Norwegian/Viking style) around door frames/lintels, cool trim and carvings on/under eaves. Do some web searches on Scandanavian sytle dwellings. Maybe we'll get some ideas to suggest to make this place unique, but not tacky.
Instead of what looks like double doors for the front entrance, I'd suggest a 40" (vs. 36")single door with a sidelight on each side. You'll have a better weathertight door seal, and more secure frame.
Looking at the floor plan, I don't see any furnace or hot water heater area. All the more reason for a basement (and streching plan front to back and side to side) Are we going to have central heat and air conditioning? I imagine it can/will get pretty hot and pretty cold in this area. How do we heat/cool the upstairs w/out central HVAC? I like the folks calling for fans; In the cathedral greatroom area, on the porch(es) and in lofts and bedrooms.
Screening in part of the deck would be good too. Don't know what part, by the outside fireplace, or in back? It'd need to look good, so it doesn't disrupt lake views or 'curb appeal' view from from of home/road. Would it need it? how do those $400 bug/mosquito repellers work?
Posted by: Kim Mc at January 26, 2008 1:44 PM
Hey Ahmed, how 'bout a nice brick, flagstone, slate, etc. patio out back behind that nice walk out basement ;^), and walk tied into a stone path/stairs (with a solid iron railing on one side?) going down to the lake - were the dock/boathouse is. And a little flat stone, brick, etc area right down there too, with a couple stone benches and table or an area big enough to put some nice wrought iron/aluminiun stuff to sit by the waters edge - watch sunset (rise?), listen to the waves, loons, wind in the trees (and jet skis ;), nice place to relax.
This lot looks like a great place for Ahmed to really have a good time and show off his talents...I bet this site, with the varied terrain could really look cool, maybe a stone wall, little pond and/or waterfall/creek type element. Gardens to attract birds, butterflies, etc. Deer will love it. Might have to have a big dog that like to sleep on the porch to keep them moving! (go eat the neighbors stuff, woof woof!)
Posted by: Kim Mc at January 26, 2008 2:24 PM
Just one question for those "thinking green and saving trees by going with gas fireplace" Where do they think the logs come from to build this house??
Posted by: Vickie at January 26, 2008 3:02 PM
I couldn't find the right place to put my comment so here it is.
Amy and the twins were awesome. I think DIY should give those boys their own show. I wish you had the same crew working on 2008, but I'll be open and give it a chance. I loved watching Blog Cabin 2007.
Thanks.
Posted by: Terry at January 26, 2008 3:20 PM
I love the floor plan. There are a lot of good ideas of small changes to the plans but I think that moving the laundry into the small room across the hall is best. Put a sink in there too. Make the old laundry closet a pantry.
Posted by: Ed Garrett at January 26, 2008 3:25 PM
No to wood burning fireplace for a number of reasons. The most important should be the environment and our carbon footprint. I really hope you will consider what the can happen if a spark were to ignite in the area( less we forget all the forest fires etc., the past few years across our nation). There could be damage to other homes & maybe lives, the loss of trees & forest that have taken many, many years to create. Also the health hazard to breathing smoke, I know I can't always enjoy my outdoor walks or areas because of the sickening smell of the smoke. It is a health hazard. The gas fireplaces have come a long long way, they can keep you warm and are very pleasant to the eye and even have the crackling sounds etc.
So please to not add more pollution to our world.
Posted by: Judi at January 26, 2008 4:41 PM
I missed out on the 2007 voting so I am excited to be a part of the 2008 home. I hope the designers don't fall into the trend of being traditional in the placement of the orientation of the house. I would like to know which direction in the 360 view is south. I would love to see the house turned almost 45 degrees to the waterfront. I think both the front and water views would be nicer. I would love to see the outdoor porch at least partially screened with a ceiling fan placed inside the screened area. I would not screen any of the wrap around porch though because of it obstructing any views. I see the voting for the logs are leaning towards the D style. I think it detracts from the "log" experience. Isn't the quaintness of a log home due partially to it being rustic??? I know this is an upscale development, but why not be different? Plus the insulating value of the 8" versus the D log is better for those hot summers. I would like to see the lakeside amended to use larger windows up and down to take benefit of the views. Well, enough for now. I can't wait to see how it develops and with any luck, maybe, I'll win it!! LOL
Posted by: Gregg Starks at January 26, 2008 5:09 PM
I would think with all the problems from c-o2, a gas burning fireplace would be the way to go.
Posted by: frank green at January 26, 2008 6:25 PM
i think you should consider a small deck on the second floor,
Posted by: anite stratton at January 26, 2008 6:45 PM
looking over the floor plan,I see there are stairs leading down to a possible basement. I would like to see you do a full or half basement under this new Blog Home. It could be fully done or roughed in to be completed at a later date by the winner. the rough in would have a roughed in bathroom. please consider this.
Posted by: maurine at January 26, 2008 6:56 PM
A gas indoor fireplace would be more convenient and cleaner however there is nothing like a wood fire. Would it be possible to put a gas fireplace indoors and a woodburning fireplace outdoors.
Posted by: Carol at January 26, 2008 7:55 PM
It so great to read all the blogs and everyones ideas. I do like the idea of a walk out basement if that change can be made. It never hurts to have a basement of some kind. Cant wait to see what we vote on next.
Happy blogging
Posted by: Jacque H at January 26, 2008 8:05 PM
I understand more about the problems some have with their pets. So glad I have not ran in to these with our grand children (2 years and 5 years old) or my in laws. So glad you was not upset, Carrie.
The lot size is .72 acre. Which I found on the site that Tracey and her husband suggested. I could also see how the cabin would be built on the lot and how the lake is there. It helped give me a better picture of this wonderful cabin.
Dreaming about how great this will be when it is finished. I hope who ever wins really appreciates all the thought and work that has went into this cabin.
Posted by: Joyce at January 26, 2008 8:31 PM
Once again I haven't seen too many comments about having solar panels on the roof. It would be a great asset for going green. I also mentoned in my last blog about the walk in basement and see that a few people agree with me. I voted for the round logs because as far as I'm concerned, the square logs and "D" logs get away fron the log cabin atmosphere.
Posted by: Donald Heerdt at January 26, 2008 8:44 PM
Attention:
This Blog says you (plural) design it. not the architect designs it.
Even though the architect did do the basic design the intent of it is for the people who watch the diy network should be able to adjust an otherwise wonderfull design. I have been in construction for 27 years and have never seen a finished project that the owner did not say "I wish I would have thought about "X" being different.
Yes the design is good but not complete because sometimes we dont put ourselves into the house and move around after playing badmitton in the yard, first aid in an emergency, getting the groceries into the house, parking the car, or even sitting down enjoying the scenic beauty. Sorry I hope everyone will stop and think the plan through and not be upset if it was perfect the way it was drawn. Thanks again diy for the opportunity to do this collaborative home.
Posted by: joe bayer at January 26, 2008 9:19 PM
I'd like to see the upstairs bathrooms moved in toward the interior wall of each bedroom creating one closet on the exterior wall rather than two small WIC next to each bathroom. Also keeps each bathroom with only one exterior wall.
Also like to see the stairs to the loft on the opposite side of the foyer to open up the kitchen more to the great room.
Scale down the master bath area. There's more closet and bath sq ft than bedroom.
And don't forget the full basement. I don't know why Clive thinks there will be water problems with a basement as long as the landscaping crew does their job and channels water away from the foundation. Why would anyone want water passing thru even a well ventilated crawl space? Is there underlying rock in this area that might prevent a cost effective basement excavation?
I hope the design crew tries to maximize the lake view on this property.
Posted by: chris from ohio at January 26, 2008 11:08 PM
I really love the floor plan. I agree as some others have posted about an screened in porch and an outside entertaining area. My family and I so enjoy getting into nature. The area you picked is so beautiful. Can't wait to see and vote on more.
Posted by: Lois at January 26, 2008 11:38 PM
Voted the D-Logs ~ D-Logs are alot easier to manage both inside and out and have an excellent R value. Wall Sconces ~ hey, I'm short and I don't carry a ladder everywhere with me. Wood Burning ~ It's a renewable heating source and not dependant on oil or energy prices. I love the cabin, just as it stands! Add a garden outside and it would complete it!
When I see some of the comments to change things, some of them are quite good...like the screening, solar, wind, and generator ideas. Even installing a propane tank would be a good idea! But it seems most of the changes wanted are cosmetic. Why are people more interested in how it looks rather than it's functionality? My husband and I are both disabled and have had to live in an Aljo Park Model for the past 11 years. Everything in it is efficient and functional...there's really no room for stylin'. It would be wonderful if we could win this, but I wouldn't need anything really changed. Just having more than 400sq ft to live in would be a great improvement! Besides, it would be close enough to see our grandchildren in Georgia! :)
Posted by: Cyndi Mitchell at January 27, 2008 3:08 AM
Two suggestions that I would love to see in this year's blog cabin.
First of all, I would love to see an extension of the house with an attached two car garage maybe being connected to the house with a portico from the rear foyer. Even though it is a beautiful location, I am sure the weather can be a bit trying at times and it would make it easier to bring the groceries into the kitchen via the rear foyer.
Second, I would love to see a walkout basement. I think this location on the lake really would be perfect to have that type of a basement. You would get some much needed storage space and some of the space could be for a entertainment/family type room. Any type of homes without basements lack one big thing.....storage space.
Posted by: Angelique at January 27, 2008 3:56 AM
I am so pleased that the floor plan that I liked was chosen! I did everything backward on the voting because I should have read the blogs first and then voted for new items. I chose the wood burning fireplace and am now thinking that the idea that some bloggers have of a gas that could be converted would be a good idea, (a gas that can burn wood) I chose the hanging pendant because it was so attractive and have found that the winds in that area are a problem for such lighing and the sconce should have been the wise choice. I will definitely try and do better on the next round of voting so I do not make the same mistakes before placing my votes. These are very important decisions for some very very lucky person an should mot be taken lightly. The designs and materials will be there for quite a long time. I can't wait to see the results of how all of this will look.
Posted by: TrishF at January 27, 2008 5:04 AM
Hi Guys,
I'm just reading the blogs that have been comming in and WOW! Can no one be happy ? I'ed give anything just to own the cabin JUST THE WAY IT IS. All of these changes are ok but get real, DIY!!!! Do it yourself!
I have to agree with one of the viewers though, this site is not very user friendly. I would like to be able to view the plans but can't seem to find a way. I'm not the greatest computer person I know and I'm sure I'm not alone. HELP!
Thanks for listening, Gayle from Florida
Posted by: gayle underwood at January 27, 2008 7:43 AM
My opinion on the changes so far are.
The upstairs bath. Isnt that a shower in each corner of both baths? Notice the x in the drawing.
The idea of screening in the side porch. I like that idea. I grew up in missouri and now live in florida, I think the skeeters were worse up north because they know that they have a very short summer and make the most of it.
To enlarge the master as some have suggested and to offer an island in the kitchen just extend the whole plan 4 ft or what is needed to allow for more counter space in this little kitchen. Without specs it is hard to say but it looks like only about a foot on either side of the stove with the fridge to the right.
Fireplace between the foyer and great room sounds great. thanks
Posted by: joe at January 27, 2008 8:26 AM
How many square feet is the San Jacinto floor plan?
Posted by: Barry at January 27, 2008 9:00 AM
does anybody see any inconsistency with worrying over burning a few trees a year (in a WOOD BURNING fireplace). we are after all building a L O G C A B I N! ! ! !
Posted by: Trista at January 27, 2008 9:23 AM
save the marshmallow! vote for a gas fireplace. everyone know my brethren (and sistren) are much tastier toasted over a WOOD fireplace.
so save my brethren (and sistren) from an untimely and tasty demise don't vote for WOOD.
(advertising paid for by the SCONCE lighting fixture.)
Posted by: The Marshmallow at January 27, 2008 9:30 AM
Hi Folks,
The lot seems wonderful,and the view ,(cant ask for more).After working on boates for years I have dreamed of a cabin on a lake for so long,I can smell the water,taste the fog,smell the new growth in the spring,feel taste touch the first silent snow flakes of winter,even hear the gentle rustle as they brush against the leaves.
O, well.Enough dreaming.Would you consider a heatalator fireplace?Thats it.
P.S. Hi Amy
Posted by: Ron V. at January 27, 2008 11:01 AM
Wow! What a beautiful home this will make someone. My wife, kids(6,7, & 11), and I watched the '07 blog cabin and couldn't stop saying "cool", "awesome", "beautiful". . .you get the idea.
Just a couple of thoughts from a family of 5-what is the lot like? Is there enough elevation for a basement? We currently live in a 3BR house, but believe me kids need their "me time" too. A basement could provide an extra bedroom, game room, home theater, etc. It's just a suggestion, I'm not familiar with the area.
Second thought-what about a garage? I have a whole shop full of power tools, bikes, hunting and fishing equipment and other outdoor, family & kid stuff. Where would we put it?
The floor plan is great! I would definitely put a mop/dump sink in the laundry area. They are great for cleaning bulky items, filling buckets, etc. A covered breezeway would be a great idea off of that side to connect the house to a detached garage/workshop. Depending on dimensions, I might consider moving the bar more toward the dining room and adding a small food prep island with a vegetable sink the middle of the kitchen. That way your "triangle" corners aren't so far apart.
I would DEFINITELY add a set of stairs next to the outdoor fireplace, I would not want to tote wood that far! I also agree that a set of stairs that matches the front steps need to added on the lakeside.
We voted for D-logs (easier to decorate on), wood-burning fireplaces (tradition and ambiance), and pendant lights for the porches (maybe not traditional, but more upscale and elegant-also need to check on LED fixtures instead of regular bulbs).
So far, so GREAT!! Keep it up and we'll be watching and voting!!
God Bless
Posted by: Joe Clara at January 27, 2008 11:21 AM
The house plan looks great. My husband and I are planning to build a new home in northern Idaho and have done extensive research. We will be building an Insulated Concrete Form home with HardiPlank siding for our wooded area which will make the house extremely fire resistant. Although this is not relavent to the log home you are planning in Tennessee, one of the features we plan to include in our home is hydronic heating in the floors. You might consider this type of heating for the log home. We are going to use a system called Turbo Burn which is a boiler system that can be wood fired as well as fired by natural gas or propane. It seems like there is plenty of wood in the area of the log home so using a wood fired boiler for hydronic heating might be a great and efficient way to heat the house and provide hot water for the house. You could then us a gas log fireplace in the house just for the ambiance it provides. The Turbo Burn boiler system would be located in a separate building away from the house so all of the woodburning mess would be outside. The Turbo Burn system also burns extremely clean, virtually no smoke, so it is environmental friendly.
Posted by: Susan at January 27, 2008 12:31 PM
I really enjoyed Blog Cabin 2007 and I have no doubt 2008 will be even better!
How about squaring off the front corners of the cabin. Then you could turn the rear foyer into a more functional mud/utility room. It would also create more space in the master bath so you can install an oversize tub with a jacuzzi.
For the record, the mountains of Montana or Idaho would be a great location for Blog Cabin 2009!
Tim
Fayetteville, NC
Posted by: Tim Dirks at January 27, 2008 2:13 PM
Small pont on the kitchen, the dishwasher is on the left. Unless your left handed could be an annoyance. i know a few leftys who have redone ther kitchens and put the dishwashers on the left and it drives me nut when i help out with dinner cleanup. I know everyone loves a window over the sink and that's why the sink is where it is but how about a corner sink? Then the dishwaher can go on the right and you can still get a window on the exterior wall.
Posted by: Dale at January 27, 2008 3:37 PM
How about a combination gas/wood burning fireplace? Lots of folks up here in AK have them, and they are great.
Posted by: hhodges at January 27, 2008 3:43 PM
Some folks have mentioned "wood pellet" fires, I didn't know that you could burn those in a fireplace, I thought that you needed a special wood stove/furnace. In general, wood burning fireplaces that are not specifically designed for heating are very ineffic1ent. Also, they do not burn very clean unless properly set up and controlled. The average city dweller, including myself, would have to acquire the knowledge and experience to make a wood fireplace work with low environmental impact. Adding a wood stove could help heat up and clean-up the wood fire, but would negate the charm of a fireplace, evan a gas log version.
Posted by: Frank at January 27, 2008 3:43 PM
Thanks for reading my comment but you got me and Ray Inwin reversed. I know you read a lot of blogs and can get confused.I wish to thank you for reading them. Now my guestion, I was just wondering could you make the front porch a little bigger? Some of us like to sit out front also. Nothing like a front porch swing on a summer night.
Posted by: clifton t wilder at January 27, 2008 3:46 PM
I am so excited about this cabin! I earlier mentioned the walk-out basement. I read another blogger add the fact that a shower in there would be useful. I would agree. Nice place to clean up from outside or wash the pets. Pets and children are a hot topic as I read from the blogs. Whatever will make life easier ---I am all for!! Thanks for the oppurtunity! :-)
Posted by: Carrisa at January 27, 2008 5:08 PM
I wanted to add...I think the washer & dryer are in a good location. Being a mother of 2, I spend most of my time running between the kitchen and laundry room. I think it's great that they are right next to each other. I could spend more time running around by the lake with the kids if I lived there!!! It would be my favorite dream come true! I have been wanting to move to Tennessee for years! This is going to be a gorgeous cabin!! :-)
Posted by: Carrisa at January 27, 2008 5:15 PM
Truely great to get all these folks involved with the planning and choices. The site is perfectly wonderful, the "D" logs are great and the fireplace needs both the option of wood or gas since one or the other would be useful to the owner. A wall sconce is more practical but the hanging light is utterly aesthetically pleasing to me. I hope Amy is having as much fun with this project "Blog Cabin" as she did on the first. Good Luck to all the builders and may you finish in record time with all the best materials and host DIY Network gets many new viewers. Go, Bloggers!
Posted by: BOG at January 27, 2008 6:34 PM
It think a gas fireplace is a better idea. There will be less soot and no smoke to interfer with the beauty of the area.
Posted by: Jess at January 27, 2008 6:46 PM
I would like you to consider locating the new cabin with the master bedroom end next to the lake.
Thanks, Keith
Posted by: Keith Stephens at January 27, 2008 6:48 PM
If there isn't any natural gas, only propane...that would change my view on the FP's. I assumed that, since we were being OFFERED a choice, natural gas was available. I certainly don't want to be landscaping around an LP tank!
Posted by: Melanie See at January 27, 2008 6:53 PM
Hey Bloggers,
Does anyone else think the master bedroom is on the small side? I'd suggest bumpimg out the lakeside wall a bit and for the sake of symetry on that elevation bump out the wall in the dining area also. This would result in a more generous master br as well as providing more kitchen/laundry/pantry/mud room space. It could also add enough space on the 2nd floor for the tub or tubs so many folks seem to desire.
Ed L.
Posted by: cabindreamer at January 27, 2008 8:02 PM
What a wonderfully family friendly home this is starting off to be... Too oft we run about getting things done, this setting provides the perfect incentive to slow down and simply drink in the beauty and warmth of ones surroundings... Inspiring family gatherings, the making of wonderful new memories while cherishing the old.
It is wonderful to see so many individuals become so invested in this project... Brava!
Posted by: Jeannie Porter at January 27, 2008 8:21 PM
My name is Sara J. Parsons. I did NOT write or post this blog! I am going to change my online name. I tried Sara J., but a very nice person also uses that, so I had to change my name to something other than a name!
Sara J. Parsons (the other) wrote this:
Posted by: Sara J. Parsons at January 23, 2008 11:49 PM
do you ACTUALLY read this blog?
if you do, do you REALLY listen to the people?
i saw some great suggestions in the blog a few times.
NO fire place(LOG home.!.)
NO drywall(LOG home)
elevator(older people and disabled people)
outdoor shower(dirt)
the list goes on&on.
this is SUPPOSED to be for the people, i know you cant make everyone happy but you could atleast ATTEMPT!!
I would never write something like this!
So many things have been written since I last tried to get something posted I am going to have to read to catch up with you guys and see where you are. I disagree with Ms. Parsons about the wood fire being in a log home, having lived in three log homes with fireplaces in each. Common safety measures obviously should be taken, but an insert would also help the problem. Gas logs just don't put out the heat, and the beautiful smells and ambience! If the winner is disabled then perhaps some money could be put aside to accomodate their needs. Counter height and other things would need to be taken into consideration. However, I'm not sure that it would be safe for a disabled person to live in a cabin alone and should have a family with them, in which case ramps and a chair lift should do the trick. Please let me catch up with you guys! You are doing great as usual, have some fantastic ideas, and I wanna play! Thank you! Cabincraver2008.
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 27, 2008 8:48 PM
Oh, this is really exciting, being able to vote. There has really been some good suggestions for different things on the cabin. I would really love to win this one.
Posted by: Melinda at January 27, 2008 8:52 PM
I also like the idea of having a basement to use for an entertainment area. Finish half for this use-a pool table is a must have and leave the other half for laundry, storage and utility area. Most new homes today have a home office built into the kitchen area; so why not improve on that idea. Use the upstairs laundry area as a home office area-switched around to the other wall by the window. Make everything controlled by the home office computer, generators, lights, oven etc.
Enclosing the porch outside of the master bedroom for a hot tub area is also a must. The entertainment area in the basement could have a pool table, dart board, bar and maybe even a juke box. A full stand up rock shower in the master bath for two would also be nice instead of the large tub. My husband won't take a bath with me, but he'll get in the hot tub with me so I'm sure that a full shower for two would be nicer in the bathroom as long as the hot tub was right out the door going to the sunroom private retreat area. Having that large of shower will allow both people to shower off the spa chemicals after being in the hot tub or to shower before getting in the hot tub to remove lotions and body oils. I'll blog again later!
Posted by: Mrs Masales at January 28, 2008 10:06 AM
I really love the Jacinto floor plan. My only suggestion would be for entertaining purposes the large covered porch with the fireplace should be on the kitchen side of the house away from the master bedroom. It would be much more convenient to be able to serve food and clean up closer to the kitchen than on the other side of the house...in addition if family were there and you wanted to retire early, but everyone else wanted to stay up the noise level could be a problem right next to the bedroom. Other than that it's just perfect.
Posted by: Ms. Fauncine Brewer at January 28, 2008 12:16 PM
First comment is to DALE about the dishwasher. Actually a dishwasher SHOULD be on left. Right handers hold dishes in their left hand while scrapping the dishes into the garbage disposal or rinsing off before putting dishes into the dishwasher.
Really want the washer and dryer to remain where they are in the plan. Cabinets over units for storage is all you really need. Why waste the nice BIG space with laundry units.
Posted by: Connie Sloan at January 28, 2008 12:27 PM
Hi, How about a Blog Cabin kit sweepstakes for those of us who are "do-it-yourselfers"? Maybe the same plan of the actual Blog Cabin. It would be a wonderful idea for those who might win and couldn't make the move to the cabin location. Maybe your show could do a special on the construction of the kit for those who want to venture into the building end of the process. Anywho, the 3 plans are beautiful and your voters have great taste and great ideas for making the homes user friendly.
Posted by: Jackie at January 28, 2008 2:04 PM
Dear Cabincraver2008
1st disabled people can live alone the suggestion was to make an access for the disabled to get in not changing counter heights, suggested one of the new walk in showers not only for the disabled, but will help the elderly in the master bath.
I love the idea of people being able to blog their ideas, great ideas have been posted. All of us have our opionions, thats why America is great.
Looking forward to the next choices, I have never won anything and probably never will, but I do think of all the different kind of people that will be trying to win and they maybe disabled or elderly.
Keep blogging this is great
Mary from Texas
Posted by: Mary at January 28, 2008 2:19 PM
Judi writes on January 26th
"No to wood burning fireplace for a number of reasons. The most important should be the environment and our carbon footprint."
Not so! If we are considering carbon footprint then the only option is wood (or wood pellet) fuel, not gas.
Not an open fire as this is very wasteful in heat and gives a poor indoor air quality, but in a modern high efficiency closed fireplace or free standing stove.
To quote from a recent paper titled 'Air Emissions from Residential Heating: The Wood Heating Option Put into Environmental
Perspective' published by the EPA: -
"When the contributions of all the components of energy production for residential space heating
and the atmospheric fate of pollutants are taken into consideration, wood combustion has the
lowest greenhouse gas and acid precipitation impacts per unit of heat delivered among the energy options."... (solar was not included in this comparison)
Carbon equivalents of greenhouse gases per quad of heat delivered: -
Gas = 17.5 million tons
Wood = 8.56 "
Acid equivalents emitted per quad of heat delivered : -
Gas = 2.4 million tons
Wood = 1.4 "
Modern catalytic wood and wood pellet burning fires and stoves produce about 1 - 2 grams (a 30th to a 15th of an ounce) of fine particulate matter (smoke) per hour to heat a 3500sq ft house - I believe the cabin is nominally 2600sq ft going by the Lakefront Estates minimum size regulations.
Natural gas, followed by LPG gas are the second and third most eco-friendly fuels after wood but have a much larger carbon footprint than wood burning. They are also non-renewable, finite and increasing in cost 10-15% annually. Trees in sustainably managed forests are replaced therefore there is, arguably, no additional carbon release if measured over a number of years. Incidentally, when a tree dies and rots it releases exactly the same amount of CO2 as if it were burned.
Modern catalytic wood stoves and fires come with timers, automatic ignition, thermostat controls, closed ash trays for completely clean removal of the few ashes that remain, cost pennies per day to run and can easily heat this cabin with some to spare. They have cabin charm but a 21st century design.
I urge the design team to consider this option for the green & clean approach to cabin heating.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 28, 2008 2:40 PM
margarette shannon,
write more blogs. your opinions count. it seems the posts are getting screened. i suppose that's okay, but it does mean a delay. they seem to be releasing posts en masse around 2pm EST. anything between 2p - 5p has a shot at same day posting. anything else has to wait until 2p the next day. i'm taking this to mean someone is actually reading the posts for ideas plus making sure folks aren't starting flame wars (or getting really nasty).
I like your idea about the hide-a-doors, tho they can get to be a little annoying if they get off track.
joyce,
spiders can find their way to hanging lamps too. plus again, i'm mostly concerned with the safety/wind issue.
donald,
solar panels would be cool or well hot oh either way great.
lost to found,
[quote]Do you have to read through all of these comments to reach the "Post a comment" space.[/quote]
no, but you do have to scroll thru all of them.
[quote]Due to allergies[/quote]
you're in the woods, on a lake, in a log cabin. allergies happen. keep it real. if you don't know how to build a fire, building one will definitely create instant heat. if you do know how to build one, it would probably take about the same amount of time to heat the room.
Everyone else,
need i say it WOOD, SCONCE, ROUND or D.
Posted by: Trista at January 28, 2008 3:30 PM
More categories for voting this time. SOme of these to help put some more personality into the Blog Cabin.
Metal roof -- it can be made to look like just about anything from the ground (although I'm not sure why one would want to make it look like asphalt shingles as one usually tries to get them to look a little like other things).
I said before to add a dock -- let me clarify -- just a small one to go out a short distance so one can sit on it & fish & perhaps have a canoe. Doesn't have to stick up & block the view.
Whichever shower is selected, please do a green version of it. And, there are more green versions available these days, even for power showers & waterfall shower heads. (So, green should not just be on the one option -- some of the others provide various controls allowing the option of low flow most of the time but also higher settings.
Posted by: adele at January 28, 2008 6:35 PM
Great location and floorplan! I agree with the bloggers that stairs from the deck on the lake front side would be welcome as well as a boat dock or house.
I noticed as the voting has progressed on some of the interior features that the arts - crafts type cabinets are favored for the kitchen. Given the choice of the d-log with the flat inside surface, I think that choice of cabinets for the kitchen will come off as busy and tacky. Just an opinion.
Keep up the good work!
Dave
Posted by: Dave at January 28, 2008 7:02 PM
Gayle,
[quote]I'm just reading the blogs that have been comming in and WOW! Can no one be happy ?[/quote]
misery loves company, dude (or well, dudette).
[quote]I'ed give anything just to own the cabin JUST THE WAY IT IS. All of these changes are ok but get real, DIY!!!![/quote]
well the very likely irony is that the blogger who voted for the flatwood, gas fireplace, & SCONCE is gonna win the log cabin with the DLOGS, WOOD FIREPLACE, and hanging lamp.
If you go back one page, you should come to the original blog page. if you scroll down that a bit you should see the floorplan names San Jancito, Dream Swept, and Wind-something-or-other. they ought to be in blue (at first, tho they may be in purple if you had already visited this link without realizing it). anyho, if you mouse your pointer over San Jancito it should give you the hand. click or double-click as your mouse demands. sometime it takes a few seconds for this page to load.
I have to agree with one of the viewers though, this site is not very user friendly. I would like to be able to view the plans but can't seem to find a way. I'm not the greatest computer person I know and I'm sure I'm not alone. HELP!
Thanks for listening, Gayle from Florida
Posted by: Trista at January 28, 2008 8:09 PM
ps gayle, the links are in red.
just think folks, at the other end of this blog is a person sitting at a computer terminal with a cup of coffee in one hand reading our comments. sounds like a sweet gig.
whoever you are, cheers old chap!
pss WOOD, SCONCE, D or ROUND
Posted by: Trista at January 28, 2008 8:15 PM
while I like the majority vote, I chose myself to go green to help our enviroment. It may not be as attractive but it is our planet we are trying to save. I would like more product info in future on which materials or features are considered green, so I can make a more informed choice,I had to guess. thanks, Marilyn
Posted by: marilyn at January 28, 2008 8:19 PM
Helloooo DIY!
Wow ~ a lot of new choices and harder decisions!
After I voted, I reviewed the stats and found that I am below par :\
I still would like to see the cabin more rustic... simplicity...more eco-friendly. I seemed on target until the newest set of voting.
I have not yet seen metal shingles on a cabin... maybe because I live way north? What are the advantages and disadvantages to metal shingles? Hmmmm...dunno... I think I would like to see the cedar shingles.
I saw a program regarding the concrete countertops; at first, I thought it sounded a little artsy. However, after watching the program and seeing the durability as well as the easy upkeep, I think it is the best way to go as far as countertops.
As usual, Happy Logging!
Posted by: UnspokenMiztie at January 28, 2008 9:33 PM
so new voting really like the looks of that rain shower how coll to have that in a lake cabin. counters i've got the butcher block easy to clean, rustic but the soap stone is interesting like the finish honed not shiney. cabinets craftmans i have something similar in hickory really rustic pretty. and that rock fire place soooo cool, this is going to be amazing
Posted by: colleen at January 28, 2008 10:03 PM
I have been voting on the blog cabin but I do not understand how to win it - where are the rules? where is the entry screen or form? when will the winner be announced? YES,yes, I really want to win! Please advise, mugsymurphy@hotmail.com
Posted by: Maureen Murphy at January 28, 2008 11:13 PM
How many wood fire lovers have ever had a real fireplace? I have a fireplace but I cant go and cut firewood, carry it home, split it, stack it, cover it, carry it, light it, clean up in the mourning and start all over again and still enjoy my two wks in the cabin. My Dad built a house and we begged for a wood burning traditional fireplace that wastes 30-40% of the heat up the flue. I promised that I would get the wood etc....
so Dad fell for it I laid the tennessee field stone (looks like long bricks with natural beauty), and dad acquired the wood, carried it and started the fire, ahhh fooled again...
Think of all the extra CO2 exhausted from your lungs the chain saw, the truck to get it there etc. Hssn't gas went up 100% in the last 3 yrs? I just Hope the tree errr planet lovers think of the wasted heat going out of the chimney when they pull their engineering numbers out of their hats. Cast iron wood burners have a lot more heat producing properties than traditional, without the beauty. Thanks to the team.
P.S. Love the garage idea, basement idea, extending the back of house, and love the different opinions in general, make the boat house pleasant and central on the lot because you can still see the island to the left and to the right. porch to the other end made sense to me before but didnt say it. Thanks America you are building an awesome home for the winner.
Posted by: joe at January 28, 2008 11:30 PM
Just voted for the new options - I had a hard time deciding between the granite and the quartz countertops. I chose the quartz but I see I have been tremendously outvoted, which is okay since I liked it also. I prefered the European Country style cabinets in the kitchen. That is just a personal preference. It will be interesting to see how everyone has to put down the ideas that are offered. I sort of get tired of reading the blogs because so many people are negative about everything. It kind of spoils the fun.
Can't wait to see how my choices end up. So far I've been voting for everything that everybody else likes (except I still like the round logs better.) This time I'm not so sure how I will turn out in the rankings.
Posted by: Beverly at January 28, 2008 11:34 PM
Yeah, more things to vote on! I was definately ready for new choices to vote on.
To all the bloggers: everyone has an opinion, and they have a right to express it without being criticized. Just because you may not agree, does not mean you have to get nasty.
Posted by: Sharon at January 28, 2008 11:52 PM
Please, people granite is horrible, ugly and incredibly outdated. Its so 90's. I'm sure all of you are thinking it's the great new thing but its already old fashioned and will eventually need to be replaced if you plan on selling your home. People in the design world and anybody who has any real taste for aesthetics would know better. Granite or butcher block are classic and not a trend. Pick them please. Granite is so trendy...ewww!
Posted by: Lynn at January 29, 2008 12:30 AM
I think Ms. Brewer's suggestion to move the large covered porch area with the fireplace to the dining room side of the house is brilliant. Please consider this for all the reasons she stated.
Posted by: Kdoodle at January 29, 2008 12:58 AM
It would be nice to have both butcher block and granite in the kitchen. Butcher block in the area for prep work but granite by the stove. It would be easier to clean and no worry about moving pans off and on the stove.
I would agree that a wood burning fireplace is the most eco-friendly but it should have an insert with a blower to convert the generated heat into usable heat on those chilly days.
Posted by: Ron at January 29, 2008 2:26 AM
If you go to the Lakefront Estates link on an earlier Blog starter... and go to the photos..
Lot 5 is located across from one of the community Gazbos... Photo 15 on the 1st page of photos and Photo 11 on the 2nd page of photos you can see the lot... (look at the Real Estate header) and you will find the site map for the community.. then look at the photos and you can see the lot (trees.. the view is towards an island)...
Since we are now voting on the roof, kitchen cabinets & counter top, shower in the masterbath.. we should be getting a new blog header to comment on these new areas that we are voting on...
And we will need a boat dock... there are only 11 slips at the main dock... for those that don't have lake access lots... so we need to check into the rules for a dock.... and make sure how far out we need to go for bow clearance.. and if the lake goes down... (would hate to have a lake lot like friends of mine that the boat is hanging over dry land at the boat dock... ??? )
Love reading the blogs...
Posted by: Barbara Turner at January 29, 2008 4:25 AM
I certainly didn't mean to insult you when I said it would be safer for a disabled person to live in an isolated area with a family; being partially disabled I agree with some of what you said, so let's be friends, OK?
Wow, you guys have some WONDERFUL new items to vote on! But the choices weren't hard for me. This cabin is going to be the dream home of the century! And with your great team working on it and everyone's input, it's going to be a litle cabin in the woods (big, really) that feels, safe, homey, cozy, clean and relaxes your mind each time you go in the front door! I can't wait to watch you guys start building it. Still reading to catch up with everyone. Boy, you guys have some brilliant ideas! Keep it up! Cabincraver 2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 29, 2008 4:43 AM
Come on Log Cabin bloggers, let's change it up. Are we building the cabin from last year again? I love granite countertops but soapstone is very dramatic, user friendly- according my friend who has it in her kitchen- and won't stain. It would look fanatic with the cabinets that are in the lead. Rain shower please. Glad the metal roof jumped to the lead. We have an addition on our house that has a metal roof and its my favorite place to be when its raining. For all of you that worry about the noise level- don't. It's a very relaxing sound.
Keep voting and blogging.
Posted by: Jenny at January 29, 2008 7:01 AM
My thoughts: First let me say the choice of wood
vs gas, I voted for gas simply because of the messiness of wood burning, hauling out the ashes & hauling in the wood etc, will there be a chamber in the bottom of the fireplace to put the ashed in? Our fireplace here in our home has
a door in the floor where the ashes are put, then there is a door in the back of the fireplace, that is in our garage for easy clean up etc. Will the cabin be heated with another source other than the fireplace? Is there a good supply of wood in the area? We changed to gas logs in our fireplace as the wood burning was very messy, not to mention we had a chimney fire the very first year we bought the place, didnt know it until a neighbor came & told us we had flames shooting out of the top of the chimney!
Later we were told to burn an aluminum can with the wood so as to keep down the, whatever that is called that collects on the walls of the chimney, lol the name slips my mind right now.
Another draw back on burning wood, is the supply of wood will & can harbor termites, carpenter ants etc.
Also, my thoughts on the 8 in logs, which I voted for, it seems the insulation would be much better. Not sure about the D-log. Altho it appears to be flat on the inside, if this is so, then that would be good as far as hanging pictures etc. Insulation vs hanging pictures!
Hope there is plenty of storage space, cant remember & tried to go back & look at floor plan but cant find it lol.
Will there be a garage? Sure hope so!
Posted by: Danna at January 29, 2008 7:21 AM
How about cedar lined closets? I see Craftsman style cabinets (not my choice) seem to be winning. With that in mind, one feature of Craftsman houses are the fabulous built-ins. Under stairs, in corners, every wall blank fit with drawers or desks or cupboards for storage. I have even seen built in china cabinets in dining rooms.
Posted by: Katie at January 29, 2008 7:28 AM
Will the fireplaces have blowers on them to blow the heat out?
Once again, consider wood bees, termites, carpenter ants etc when burning wood.
I read talk of a basement, I didnt see one in the floor plan. Definitely needs a basement!
Consideration of possible flooding a must tho when it comes to basements!
Posted by: Danna at January 29, 2008 7:52 AM
Let's start out with this blogging. Please please get things to the point some how so we don't have to scan down 438 blogs we have already read to read the next 75 to 100 blogs. PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!
Well, with the fireplace being decided to be wood burning, that's okay, the owner can install whatever they choose.
LAUNDRY in a high traffic flow area no way! Does everyone come in their front door? I don't think so.Why would you want your laundry in the traffic flow. Come on, get it out of the way with some folding area. The room looks somewhat sizable, it can be multi functional. The room next to the kitchen is still in the kitchen for the lady who needed to be back and forth between the kitchen. GET IT OUT OF THE TRAFFIC flow area. At least in the room across the way you can have a folding table for the piles of clothes you are taking out of the dryer.
Has no one noticed that the upstairs bath(s) is in a dormer? If you enlarge them(side to side) you will be taking away the closet space. I wonder how much the exterior look will change if we enlarge the upstairs bathrooms(dormers). You change one you have to change both to keep the integrity of the San Jacinto's exterior presentation. You could always take room space, I guess.
Not every handicap person is in a wheel chair. I just would like to see the entrances and floors be so there are not a lot of stairs and easier for someome to move around in the rooms and bathrooms. On the average all houses are built for the hearty and able, without thought for some one with a problem. Even the able can sometimes wish they did not have to climb all those stairs.
Yes, the master is a small. Since this could be a summer home, no big deal, but another 2 feet would be nice. I read all the changes every one wants to make and wonder what the actual cost of making some of these changes would cost. In all the things I have read and seen on TV, one small change can cost thousands. Since the person winning this cabin/house will have to claim it as income what will it cost them in the end? Does DIY pay those taxes?
Oh well, on to the next round. STONE STONE STONE!
EVERYWHERE. Stone fireplace, stone countertops.
No contemporary cabinets, not in a log cabin.
I voted for a water saving shower head in all the bathrooms. We have to get water conscious here since eastern Tn and NC, SC are in extreme droughts right now. We so need to be conservative. Do it right the first time...... Think about it now. Believe me living through water restrictions is NOT FUN. Think now or pay later....
Metal roof is not an oil based product like asphalt, though the coating might be. Composites I am not sure of, but they probably use some oilbased products to make them.
For now all I am saying is lets get environmentally conscious somewhere in this BLOG cabin.
Posted by: Lynn at January 29, 2008 8:56 AM
Please consider gas logs in the fireplace. Although real logs may be more romantic and traditional, they are messy and inefficient. Ever wake up on a cool fall morning and want something to take the chill off? Gas logs provide instant heat, wood takes time to get going.
Posted by: Deb at January 29, 2008 8:59 AM
This is getting to be more fun every week. since we decided on wood burning is there a way to put a log bin that opens from both inside and out to maek the log carrying less a chore? Has any thought been given to using a geo-thermal system for heat to be more energy conscious and a generator just in case of a power outage? What a great home we are all designing.
Keep it up!
Posted by: Nancy at January 29, 2008 9:40 AM
How about including a workshop and Home Office
Posted by: Rick at January 29, 2008 9:47 AM
It's fun to see it when most of the things I voted for are winning! I have to admit, I didn't vote for the metal roof or the wood stove. Question: What are all the merits of metal roofs? Are thy that great? It seems that a nice warm cedar shingle (even composite) would finish the rustic "cabin" look much better. For the fireplace, I like the idea of a gas/wood combo that someone mentioned. That's the best of both worlds. Let's face it, burning logs isn't the best for the environment, and as we (meaning me) get older, who wants to go chop wood and clean a dirty stove all the time. Gas is clean, easy, and convenient.
Posted by: Tim at January 29, 2008 9:50 AM
Re: the counter tops
This takes a lot of knowledge re the available materials, bloggers. Having gotten what little bit I know fr HGTV, I went to sites *not* fr dealers.
From what I learned, soapstone is the best f durability, nonporous (virtually no upkeep), nonstainable, and heatproof. The downside is that the color choices are very limited.
Concrete is good also. Lots of color choices and textures - can be customized.
Re marble and granite: Mr. Hawkins, is the budget f the kitchen of the cabin/house (which is it?? Makes a big difference!) unlimited? We may have to scale down in order f the expansions suggested.
If this is a *cabin*, I feel there is a "woodsy" aesthetic. If it is a house, then bloggers can choose to interior decorate w/their favorite style.
Posted by: Leslie Thompson at January 29, 2008 10:44 AM
I agree, Rick, a home office/den would be nice.
Posted by: Barry at January 29, 2008 11:05 AM
I am so happy with how the vote has went so far and the new products that we get to vote on are great too. I feel that stone for the fireplace is so natural because of it being a log cabin! All the other votes we get should be just as easy if we keep in mind we are builting a really nice log cabin.
I really enjoy the blog there are some really great ideas and a few laughs.
Joyce
Posted by: Joyce at January 29, 2008 12:02 PM
As to problems with a walk out basement and water. I lived in a lakefront home in Washington State with clay soil. We used 1 inch pea gravel a foot deep with drain tiles under the entire basement floor. In over 30 yrs. never a leak ! As long as the base floor sits above the lake water level by a few feet it should be fine. Please consider a walkout basement DIY . Even totally unfinished except for power and plumbing it is worth it.
Posted by: Ramblin Rob at January 29, 2008 1:36 PM
Hi, I do woodworking in my spare time, one of my last projects was a log cabin bird feeder. I was thinking this could be a nice addition to the blog cabin. If this is acceptable please E-mail me or contact me at 706-836-3171.
Thank you
Thomas L. Toole
Posted by: Thomas Toole at January 29, 2008 4:22 PM
1. Metal roof benefits: Expected life. Properly installed, a metal roof should last as long as the house, completely sealing out water, surviving high winds and easily shedding snow. Metal is resistant to fire, mildew, insects and rot. Warranties vary widely but most companies strongly back their products for from 20 to 50 years.Expected life. Properly installed, a metal roof should last as long as the house, completely sealing out water, surviving high winds and easily shedding snow. Metal is resistant to fire, mildew, insects and rot. Warranties vary widely but most companies strongly back their products for from 20 to 50 years. As far as noise is concerned, many companies have corrected this problem by using materials that have structural barriers to minimize the drum effect and by applying them over sound-deadening insulation and solid plywood sheathing. Other drawbacks are metal can dent if hit by large hail, it is slippery when wet and if someone (a plumber) needs to get on the roof to snake out a vent pipe or a chimney sweep needs to clean out our lovely woodfireplace chimney! Care should be taken when selecting the company that provides the tiles. They can scratch, and sometimes must be hosed off to remove dust and other particles that make the roof look dull.
Regarding the hanging porch lamp, there are hanging lamps that hang from a stablized post, with no swing involved at all. It might be a good idea to look at some of these. I agree with the soapstone idea, but I also like concrete and granite, so I'm not the best person to help with this decision! I would really, really like to know if this lake allows floating boat docks! Some, many, lakes no longer do to keep the coast line pristine, and although it is beautiful if you own a boat and why live on the lake if you don't, you will need a place to keep it and a ramp to lower it into the water. The person that wants a garage made me think of something! If you get a 4x4, your garage could have a boat pad under an attached "boat port". This area could also have closets built into it for storage. I do know that special building permits are required for ports, so that would have to be checked into. However if we are allowed to have a boat dock on our property, then hallelujah! Partially indoors to protect the boat and have a warm place to fish and partially outdoors to swim, dive and have a summer place to fish!
Earlier a woman wrote that the dishwasher should be on the left. I am right handed, and I stack the dishes on the left sink, where the disposal is. I scrape, then rinse and scrub a bit over the right sink and move into the dishwasher using my right hand. I believe the dishwasher should be on the RIGHT.
Isn't it fun to be able to vote everyday on something you can feel like you are really contributing too? Especially when your votes zoom forward and are chosen! I've never won anything in my life, except to contribute with San Jacinto, wood burning fireplace, hanging light, and it looks like my interior ideas are up there also.
What a great bunch of people you are, and it's really fun to be a part of this group. Keep blogging on, and may the worthiest blogger win!
Cabincraver2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 29, 2008 8:09 PM
Comment to Clive with all the greenhouse gas data. Way to Go! I selected woodburning but then I was swayed for gas indoors. I have a woodburner and I love it. Thanks again for sharing and thanks to all of the bloggers. I still believe sconces for the outside are better. Have you seen some of the really big closed units, Awesome!!
Posted by: Harry at January 29, 2008 8:22 PM
It amazes me how we all have our own ideas how this beautiful log Cabin should be. I wonder if there are indeed restrictions due to codicills on the Community on what you are permitted to do and have we been instructed as to what they are so we do not infringe on any of the restrictions w/ ideas etc. I would hope someone from the team will read my note and answer the question. I too, followed last year by lurking and not patticpating. but it's more fun voting and picking and pretending that it could be yours. No harm in dreamin' Thanks for the fun... Loved the show.... Look forward to this year.. Cathy
Posted by: Cathy Dotterer at January 30, 2008 2:35 AM
I read a comment earlier about putting in a basement. In many lakeside locations close to the top of the earth is a hard layer of rock, and it would be very difficult to dig deep enough to put in a basement. I have only seen one cabin with a basement that wasn't a junk trap, and am not very impressed by them at all. If extra storage is needed perhaps a garage or outbuilding would be a better idea. Near the lake there is so much mold due to water, and in some areas flooding, this could be a formula for disaster. I would love the extra space for storage that a basement would allow, but I don't think one is included in the original plans, and with all the changes being requested just the architectural costs not including materials will be very expensive to put in some of them. A basement would be very cost prohibitive. So, let's hope for the best, but the best may be no basement.
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 30, 2008 3:42 AM
I love the floor plan but was thinking(dreaming) about living in this log home and then it hit me,where am I gonna do all those projects that I've learned to do from watching DIY, not to mention storing all my tools,ummm maybe we could add a garage to this home just to add to the fun and versitlity ,not to mention a place to store the boat....LOL
Posted by: Tim Qualls at January 30, 2008 7:38 AM
[quote]I have been voting on the blog cabin but I do not understand how to win it[/quote]
we get to enter to win it near or after its completion. that is if they follow last year's pattern. i personally think bloggers ought to get an extra entry :D!
Posted by: Trista at January 30, 2008 8:00 AM
Thoughts on the metal roof:
Consider: damage, such as falling tree limbs etc,
replacement of shingled roof, wind damage, hail damage etc.
As for the granite counter tops YUK!
I would much rather have marble, It seems it would be lighter in color to brighten up the kitchen.
WHAT ABOUT STAINLESS STEEL?
Sure wish that had been an options
Germs do not adhere to stainless steel as other
surfaces.
Would like to see ALL stainless steel appliances!
Sure hope this is considered!
I am ejoying voting & posting!
THANK YOU DYI!
Posted by: Danna at January 30, 2008 9:28 AM
Hey bloggers. Let's move on. Whether your favorite or not, the San Jacinto plan, D-logs, pendant front porch light and wood burning FP are in. For the next round of items, it's pretty easy to predict how this will go although it's curious that the power shower would be so popular with all of the talk about a "green" project. The power shower is the least eco-friendly option of the bunch. Kinda goes to show us how passionate about causes we aren't when it come to personal preferences! Probably the two leaders in the counter top voting are the best choices, at least from a durability standpoint. Soapstone is pretty, but not terribly durable. Granite has to be sealed from time to time, but will look great for years. The metal roof voting is not a surprise either although the synthetic cedar shake is probably more eco-friendly being made with recycled materials. Longevity of the two are about the same, 50 years. One thing to consider is the fact that the metal will show the dust settling on it a lot more than the synthetic and there will be plenty as the area homes are being built. All in all, it's hard to go too far wrong with the choices given even though everyone won't be satisfied. What's perfect for one is not so much for another. I just hope the person who wins can come up with the 150 large or so in taxes so they can keep it. It would be a shame to have to sell it.
Posted by: Doug at January 30, 2008 9:36 AM
While I voted for the granite countertops, I understand that they can be hard to maintain; what about the synthetic granite like countertops? I cannot remember their name, but they are supposed to look exactly like granite and be easier to maintain -- I'm all for ease in maintenance!
Posted by: Susan McFadden at January 30, 2008 10:26 AM
There is Cambria, which is a natural quartz and looks so much like granite I can't tell the difference. Cambria is quartz, a natural stone. You get the look and feel of granite, but it is non-porous. So Cambria maintenance is simple, just wash it with warm water. It won't stain, and it never needs sealing or reconditioning. Granite is a porous stone. It needs to be sealed regularly with a chemical treatment. It can absorb liquids and food, risking potential staining and bacterial growth in the countertop. I agree with Doug, it's time to move on from the fireplace/log/pendant light issue. Those votes are in and settled. The Power Shower. Online we have more than an encyclopedia of information, and can find out about every product being suggested for the cabin. For example:
Concerned about saving water? Start your day with a power shower.
A power shower is what we at The Daily Green call a short, five-minute shower that uses about 12.5 gallons of water. Since the average shower can use up to 25 gallons of water, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), you're already on your way to saving half that amount. And if you install a water efficient showerhead, you'll conserve even more.
And for the truly eco-committed, consider the occasional "military" shower: Turn the shower off when you soap up, then back on while you rinse.
I believe that a really good shower is a necessity at a lakeside house (fish scales, dirt between toes and other hard to reach areas, tree sticks and leaves in hair, etc.) I know that nothing makes me rest better at night than a really good shower and clean jammies in my cabin bed with the moon over the lake.
How deep is the water at the lakeline along the property edge? How far out would the boat dock need to be to be safe and deep enough for various hulls? Could someone please answer this? Many people want to know. I am confused about the laundry room problem. I see a washer/dryer behind folding doors, which seems to take up very little space. Across the hall to the back foyer is a room but there is no label describing what the room is for. Does anyone know? Is it part of the laundry? I really would like more room for folding clothes, but you just can't have everything and I would sacrifice many things to have this cabin! Wouldn't we all?
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 30, 2008 11:54 AM
I have found the answer to my question about boatdocks: Lots 55 large lakefront homesites that average over 1 acre, have true lake frontage, private docks, and contouring landscape that gently slopes to the water. Interior homesites are available and access Watts Bar Lake via the community boat slip. Lakefornt homesites are priced from $239,900. Interior lots from $119,900. Private Lakefront Estates offers 1+ acre homesites situated alongside 39000 acre
Watts Bar Lake between the Cumberland Mountains and the Tennessee River.
It's fairly close to Nashville. A bit further to Knoxville and Atlanta, GA.
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 30, 2008 12:22 PM
i would love the to have a hottub,we went to the smokies and rented a logcabin that had a hot tub and it was awsome.Love the basement idea!!!You should convert the coffe tables with game boards painted.Makeing more windows would be green because they replace lightbulbs in the day.I think makeing the staircase look like that it still has a little bit of bark on it.What type of wood are you useing???Mabye useing a heating and cooling company that will be energy effictint would be nice.I agree about extending the porch.I was wondering how maney acrecs the 08 cabin will come with???Will it have neighboors?
Posted by: Sam Gravois at January 30, 2008 3:42 PM
I forgot one other thing. Temperatures. The weather at the lake has been cold (15 to 20 degrees in the winter) but NO SNOW for at least five years or so. In the summer the highs are in the low nineties. I thought this might help some of you who are worried about carrying logs in the snow, or air conditioning bills. TTFN (Ta ta for now!)
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 30, 2008 4:38 PM
Amy,
I have a suggestion that has nothing to do with the cabin itself. Why don't you set up a place for new blog comments and a place for all the past comments. For those of us that are attempting to following the blog line it would make it much easier to follow along.
I read the same comments several times/days looking for where I let off so I can catch up and not miss anything.
Love the blog line, its interesting how many differing opinions are out there, love them ALL.
Bob
Posted by: Robert at January 31, 2008 10:13 AM
I need to correct my last blog. The home will be fairly close to KNOXVILLE, and a bit further to Nashville and Atlanta, Ga. Sorry for the confusion. Cabincraver2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at January 31, 2008 11:40 AM
in response to Danna, January 30.
Stainless steel is certainly not germ or hassle free. It dinks, dents and scratches really easily. Those scratches are perfect breeding grounds for bacteria and can harbor viruses too. Steel requires careful cleaning with non-bleach (chlorine based) products. If you use bleach or other strong alkaline cleaners these will quickly etch stainless steel if they are left to pool anywhere. The same goes for copper surfaces with acid such as fruit juice, vinegar or ketchup for EG.
I agree, granite is so 90's and also needs maintenance to keep in good condition. Engineered quartz such as 'Silestone' or 'Cambrian' are a better choice if you want 'stone' finishes and they come with bacteriocides incorporated into the countertops for long-lasting anti-microbial action. They require no annual re-finishing and bad scratches can be polished out. They also accept hot items directly which is a problem for some other surfaces.
FYI to all bloggers on this thread. There is a new thread just under the new voting options introduced by Watson on Jan 29th. It’s more up-to-date with the more recent voting options.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 31, 2008 2:27 PM
Hi 'Cabinbcraver', I like some of your comments but the boat dock thing is still confusing me. Sure, some of the lots have what appears to be lake frontage suitable for a boat dock but it's really difficult to discover what the local regulations are for these. Certainly, one needs a permit and there are minimum sizes etc. but it's very unclear whether the permits will be allowed in this part of the lake. Also, the severe drought in the region has resulted in the lake being considerably lower than in many of the pictures. Again it's very difficult to discover exactly how serious the situation is but the local newspaper has articles on the possibility that the Watts Bar nuclear plant, which is close by, will have to stop power production if the rainfall situation doesn't improve soon as the lake is dangerously near the minimum level for the plant to continue to function safely.
If there are any 'local people' on this blog it would help to have some information from them on the true situation on the ground. There are reports from communities not too far away that were rationing homes to a few hundred gallons of water per day. One reason to think hard about the type of shower and other water using appliances in this cabin and also to consider that the cost of electricity locally may rise steeply (a figure of 10-fold) is quoted in the local Spring City newspaper.
Posted by: Clive Wells at January 31, 2008 2:44 PM
Just curious. I know I'm tilling old ground, but after playing a little with the plan and looking at the lot, it almost appears the house and porch are within about 20 feet of being as wide as the lot. I'm guessing the house, porch and deck to be about 80 feet in width and the lot appears to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 100' x 320' or so. Obviously has nothing to do with what we are voting on now. Just an observation and might answer a question I saw about proximity of neighbors. They could be very close. Maybe the deck goes from the side to the back.
Posted by: Doug at January 31, 2008 4:07 PM
Well,we have a lot to vote on this week, dont we!
Well for those of you who granite, I would like to tell you all why I pick quartz. Quartz countertops dont have to sealed like granite, they dont stain scratch or scorch! The are comparable in price and have a good range of color choices and one thing that some of the quartz product have is microban, which is an antimicrobial agent built into the countertop the keeps bacterias etc from living on surfaces.
Posted by: Melissa at January 31, 2008 6:49 PM
People are already suggesting spots for next year, and this year isn't even built! Well, 2 cents is 2 cents, and mine would be Grand Lake O' The Cherokees in Oklahoma, one of the finest lakes in this part of the country, largest, cleanest, and many great places to build. Some very deep coves, a paddle boat that has dinner, gambling, etc. Also, there is a small Branson type area on the way to Grove if Country music flips your wig. I'll stay in the cabin! Personally, I like the lake and the lot that was chosen this year! I did read one bloggers idea of making the fireplace a see-through which I love. I've had two of them, and they always add something to both rooms they involve. Of course I think fireplace for Christmas! The bathtupb is going in upstairs, so that is a moot point. I sure would like to know why we are still voting on things thtat are being done (the roof is almost finished) and where is the new voting? What is the address? Thanks for your help! Cabincraver2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at February 1, 2008 2:40 AM
Thank you Clive for the info on the stainless steel, I had not thought of that! So glad you pointed that out.
Looks like the granite has the vote BUT
sure hope the builders go with the QUARTZ instead! I voted for marble but have since switched my vote to QUARTZ!
Thanks to Cabincraver for the info on the quartz vs granite!
Posted by: Danna at February 1, 2008 9:00 AM
Last night I watched two DIY Blog Cabin features. The green tile roof is on, they found they could not fit a bathtub in that one bath, they completed the Power Shower, they did all the floor tiles, and this weekend they are going to show the kitchen cabinet installation and some other exciting features! My question is why are we still voting on things that are being done? Is there another page of voting going on that we are unaware of, and if so what is the address of that page? We are still posting comments about items in the house that are already complete! I thought it was really neat to watch the man make old lye soap. My grandma used to make it when I was a little girl, and washed all of her clothes in it. It's just lye, lard and water, but there is a formula to mixing the ingredients. He states that it is really good to bathe with, and gave the team some of the bars to put in the bathroom! How cool was that? An inspector was there twice and gave the cabin 3 stars because, as he explained, there aren't four stars! They are doing their normal excellent work. I can't wait to watch this weekend, but if anyone knows about a new voting site please post it so we can follow it and vote on the new options. Thanks bloggers! Cabincraver2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at February 1, 2008 2:48 PM
Well., I am partial to soapstone so I had to tussle with myself to be practical but I definitely want easy to clean kitchen cabinets and there is too much stuff on the craftsman and the European for me. I want storage space for big toys, too.
Posted by: sal williams at February 1, 2008 7:19 PM
I think it would be really nice to add a grill/smoker. built into the outdoor fireplace. Nothing like fresh smoked or grilled fish.
Another thing to ask , is how often if ever this lake rises above its normal level each year. And what was the highest level on record. Then build above that.
Oh, and skylights would be really nice in the side porch too.
Posted by: Ramblin Rob at February 1, 2008 11:28 PM
1. Do you guys realize that there is a new blog page and I have entered a few blogs that have not been posted. I guess you have to go through the approval period all over again when they start a new page. Here's the address: http://blogs.scrippsnetworks.com/diy/blogcabin/2008/01/five_pivotal_features_up_for_a.html 2. We are still voting on the tin roof, the rock fireplace surround, the kitchen cabinets, the shower type, the counter tops. However, I have been watching DIY religiously and these things are already installed or are in the process, so why aren't we moving on to vote on the next items in the cabin? Does anyone know if there is another place to vote or have you read something about this? The green tin roof is on, the power shower is done, the kitchen cabinets will be shown tomorrow I believe at 4:30 CST, the granite has been delivered but I had to fix dinner during part of this show darn people in this house who need to eat! I don't see the purpose on voting for things that have been selected or are installed! However, everything that is ahead on the VOTE page has won already.
If anyone knows anything please advise! Thanks so much and may the worthiest blogger win! Cabincraver2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at February 2, 2008 4:26 AM
I have land in Mentone Alabama on Look Out Mountain next to a river and have thought about cabins for two years. We live on the beach in Gulf Shores Alabama and love thinking about trees. I think the Blog folks have a lot of great ideas. The location on the lake in Tennessee is beautiful too. Continue the dream!
Posted by: RA Springer at February 2, 2008 8:07 AM
Ahmed c/o Watson,
Hi Ahmed, I just watched the short video strip on you and wanted to say welcome aboard.
Very pleased the twins will be back on this project, they are too fun guys to watch as the project unfolds.
This is going to be a very fun project to see built, as I missed out on the the first half of the cabin build. I'm looking forward to watch this one from cradle to grave.
A word to the wise Ahmed, the twins were right about the contractors working on Smoky Mountain Time, I learned the hard way building a large manufacturing plant in Serierville TN. Their day starts when they get there, not when you do, lol lol.
Amy left you some big shoes to fill and I'm sure you'll do fine, again welcome.
Bob
Posted by: Robert at February 2, 2008 8:54 AM
Extending the porch around to the front poses some problems when people come to the front entrance. It provides a path to the master bath and water closet windows, which might be uncomfortable for some people. Like the idea of a front porch, but as the porch extends up to the fron building line, this almost meets that need.
Adding a second stairway to the lakside view is a good idea, but a third, so that there is one on the side dining room and the master bedroom, would be even better. This would also provide a balanced view to the back to the house, as well as easy access to the lake front. This might pose a security issue when the owner is not present, but with a sercrity system, this would abate the situation.
Moving the washer and dryer is OK as long as the site offers the ability to multi task. The room opposite where it is currently positioned maintains that possibility. The plumbing would not be an opsticle, as there is water on that the common wall behind the dishwasher and the dryer can be placed next to the outside wall. With the washer/dryer in that room, there would be space for sorting, folding and supplies. The current laundry space could be used as a pantry area. It is not clear if there is pantry cabinents in the kitchen area.
The idea of providing more windows for more outside light is a good idea, although it would be difficult with the current roof line. Maybe a small window on either side of the chimney? Maybe skylights might be the answer. but often they have posed a problem in the future and these also might also complicate the roof.
The idea of a tub on the second floor is a good idea, which would be nice for both bathrooms, but there is the problem of space. Not sure, but if the closets on the other side of the bedrooms are also walkin closets, maybe one of the closets next to each bathroom can be sacrificed for the additional room needed for a tub in each. As there are no elevation height measurements, it is difficult to tell if this is even a possibility. But if the height is good, this maybe the answer.
Now for some other ideas.
1) Heated floors for each bathroom, or at least the master bath.
2) The rear foyer should act as a mud room and should also be equiped with a built in bench, if the space allows a proper flow.
3) As there is a fire place outside the master bedroom, why not replicate this porch are on the other side so that barbeque cooking can be done on that side of the house, next to the kitchen.
4) Do not know how the bug situation is throughout the year, but this should be reviewed, so that if screens are needed, this is addressed.
Regards
Posted by: Gerald LeRoy at February 2, 2008 10:13 PM
Just some other thoughts about environmentally frendly enhansements.
1) Setting up water conservation system, such as underground rain water storage for irragation.
2) Grey water system?
3) With the great roof area, what about solar cell panels?
Regards
Posted by: Gerald at February 2, 2008 10:34 PM
To: Clive Wells You certainly did your homework on the metal roofing material! I read about Silestone and Cambria and mentioned Cambria in one of my blogs, but the granite had already surpassed it like the Road Runner leaving the coyote in the dust.
Thanks so much for the info on the new thread! Since you seem really familiar with this blogging thing as well as with building materials, I hope we hear more from you in the future.
Cabincraver2008
Posted by: Cabincraver2008 at February 2, 2008 10:48 PM
My previous blog entry didnt come out as posted so I will try agian. We need a place for our cars and a place to store/ use our tools so I was thinking the place needs a garage...just a thought.
Posted by: Tim Qualls at February 3, 2008 9:20 AM
Good morning to ya, For those who have not visited Watts Bar Lake,I have to tell you that I fell in love with the area several years ago. My husband and I found it just be driving around site-seeing. A cabin on the lake has been burning within me from the moment my eyes layed hold Watts Bar Lake. What a dream cabin.There is so much to do there and the mornings are filled with the mountain dew hanging from heavens gates. Talk about getting close the God and being still before Him. It is another world and one that I would love to live in full time. Family,good friends or just to get alone and be refreshed.This is my kind of living..You Too? This cabin will be breath-taking for sure.....Have a great day everyone...Live love be happy and don't forget to give thanks always.
Moutain Dreamer
Posted by: Vera Van Tassell at February 3, 2008 10:09 AM
Dogs seem to always grab the spotlight in these homes. Could you please consider a "kitty door" that goes to a garage (or other room) where the litter boxes are kept? Also, considering cats, could you think about a nice climbing area where they could play/exercize?
One more comment: Are you considering pocket doors to some of the areas (laundry room, perhaps, or 1/2 baths)? They are so practical.
Final comment: Could you consider a "Murphy bed" in a SEWING/CRAFT room, to double the use of the space?
Thanks, and I'm trying to tape EVERY episode on TV!
Posted by: Donna Kay at February 3, 2008 4:14 PM
how come my commente have'nt been posted? and what is a URL: I left a comment on the 2007 cabin, but that totall diferent.
Posted by: Charles at February 3, 2008 4:42 PM
About the fireplace, how about including a gas start for ease of use?
Posted by: Regina Robinson at February 3, 2008 5:45 PM
Love everything you have chosen or voted on so far, only one suggestion. Flip the floorplan. I see you have the outdoor fireplace and deck outside the master bedroom. I would assume one would have an outdoor cooking and eating area out there, shouldn't the kitchen be closer to it. Make it alot easier to get the food out there and the dirty dishes back in. Also, if the family living there has teenagers or young adult children, they would be the ones most likely to be out there late at night while the parents (owners) would be in the master bedroom trying to sleep. Just a suggestion. Other than that the plan is just fine.
Posted by: Tina Wolfe at February 3, 2008 5:55 PM
WOW! The choices and ideas coming from others have been spectacular!
We frequent Gatlingburg and have enjoyed our stays at cabins there. A hot tub would be a great bonus especially during the cold season. A dock for a boat would also be a great addition if permisable. Making the loft into a game room is a must! I could see a billard table there. Lots of windows facing the lake is a must even from the loft!
Also the fireplace would be ideal if it were a two way fireplace that could be enjoyed from many views like the Foyer or dining room as well as living room. I like the choices in stone.
Ironically, A few months back I was talking to my husband about what we might like to do when we retire, and we both agreed a log cabin in Tennessee would be SO ideal as it would keep us close to family while living North Alabama.
Whom ever wins this will be so lucky, we will be happy for them and thrilled to see this gorgeous cabin come along and watch it's progress! We'll continue to contribute votes and enjoy others sugestions.
Posted by: prblythe at February 4, 2008 4:00 AM
You did not leave a voting button and when you go to vote on the cabinets etc you get roofing with no place to register your vote.
Posted by: Shandy at February 4, 2008 9:12 AM
For the backsplash in the kitchen go to annsacks.com and click on algonquin. I have a cabin and would LOVE to put this in it, even if it is just a spot above the stove. Check it out it is really neat!
Posted by: Andrea at February 5, 2008 9:43 AM
I agree that there is a lot of repitition in this voting and I see that every day as a builder of log homes BUT....... there are some great other choices. Particularly in the roofing and countertops. I think the shake would be a great fit with this house and soapstone is a wonderful but rarely selected countertop in a log homes. Lets consider mixing it up folks!
Posted by: Joy at February 5, 2008 2:59 PM
Would consider myself "Blessed" just to have my hustand's and my life long dream home.
Posted by: Pam Courtney at February 7, 2008 11:42 AM
Hello Fellow CABIN bloggers. First, everyone has been contributing LOTS of ideas. Most sound great. But some should be LEFT up to the new owner...not DIY!!!!!!!
Also, Gerald from Feb. 2, has some geat questions. Could I add: how about "SOLAR SHINGLES" (yes, they do exsist) and you would get back state rebates and etc.....
Now, all the votes for the next 5 items, I do agree on. These items to be added, are making it look like a LOG cabin.
I like to idea of making the deck on the MBR side smaller & bumping out the Dining room side (adding a BAR B Q).
So, if the winters are not that bad, a wood fireplace would be better. (esp. w/ the high price of GAS) and if the summers are beatiful on the lake...open the windows (use pet screen to help keep out the bugs)
Keep blogging & thanks DIY
Posted by: Godfrey Little at February 7, 2008 5:50 PM
I have been very excited to join in the voting for this Blog Cabin - I have never really watched any of the prior seasons - just a show here and there. But, this is so very exciting to come and vote and I look forward to the actual viewing of this cabin! I do hope that there will be lots of Green! Materials and designs in this home - espically since it is such a beautiful landscape -it would be even more of treasure to own such a grand home on the lake! I am proud to be a part of this home!
Posted by: Merry Graham at February 7, 2008 9:25 PM
http://www.lakefrontestates.net/index.html
For those asking for location, here's a link to their website with additional information.
Posted by: Denny at February 9, 2008 10:15 PM
I dont quite know whats happening but my posts are not what i put in here the last one shown is very wrong although I have been to watts bar many times I dont have a husband as indicated by the post as I am a husband to my wife of 23 years. I also have tried now 3 times to get my input in about how the cabin needs a garage or work shop.If I'm not doing something right someone please let me know.....Thanks, Tim Qualls
Posted by: Tim Qualls at February 10, 2008 9:19 AM
Just another option that would be convient is to have your own boat ramp to the lake. If there is a basement added to the cabin, an opening could be added for boat storage on the lake side of the cabin connected to the boat ramp. Another great offering would be to include a pontoon boat as part of the prize package.
Posted by: Regina Robinson at February 10, 2008 11:11 AM
O.K. so I've been watching and voting but not blogging...so here goes. I love the "Blog Cabin". It's like builing my dream home and DIY taking our voting into consideration...well, it's like having the home America built. My only suggestion is "build it as natural as possible". It fits into the landscape and I know from my builds, it makes it a lot easier when the power goes out, to live much like our forefathers lived. Keep up the AWESOME work America!
Posted by: Rudy Fernandez at February 10, 2008 7:29 PM
A question for Ahmed & or Mr. Watson, With all the blogging going on about this cabin, Have your designers come up with a rough sketch????? (with all the new ideas by us, of course). Next, please don't take this wrong: BUT, this is a different style cabin, compared to last year. I'm sure (and the Twins are, too) wondering if you are going to have more help????????
Now, my next question is: Could we have a contest, of sorts, to see who could HELp build this cabin. Clearing out of land, framing, the roof, etc. This would I think, help w/ the voting & blogging. Or do we have enough people already participating?????
Just a note, to make you hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Posted by: Godfrey Little at February 11, 2008 8:21 PM
Hi, I love the floor plan for this years cabin, but wouldn't it make more sense to flip the floor plan on the first floor so that the poorch with the firplace is on the kitchen side. It would make for a better entertaining experience for the owners.
Posted by: Chris at February 12, 2008 11:41 AM
I went into vote on the next new list of choices today, only to be stopped by a pop-up message which I couldn't close, so my vote never went in, so when I came back later in the day to re-vote, it said I had already done so today. Meaning I missed out. Therefore, if you insist on putting these silly & annoying pop-up adverts there; please make them so they are not over the voting choices, and so they will go away when we press close the icon. - Sandy
Posted by: Sandy Chamberlain at February 12, 2008 2:14 PM
I'm glad to see that a lot of bloggers have taken deep thought and consideration to all the realistic possibilites that need to be incorporated when building a home in the environment in which was chosen for this cabin. Which includes natural disaster's such as tornadoes, basement/storm shelter... elevated flooring for flood protection when lake rises... flame retardents, for possible forest fires/lightning strikes... power outages due to thunderstorms, a generator is an unequivocal necessitiy when all the power goes out and the electronic shower no longer works... screens to prevent insect nuisances, helping to prevent the west nile virus... high winds, hanging/swinging lighting, sconce lighting would've been more practical but lost the vote... mud room w/shower and laundry facilities adjacent and a restroom near that area as well would be ideal... a garage adjacent or near the kitchen would be nice so that grocery unloading would be made easier.
Posted by: tmrh at February 14, 2008 8:16 PM
I REALLY LIKE THE BLOG CABIN 2007 AND CAN WAIT UNTIL 2008 GETS STARTED
Posted by: SHEILA MICHELS at February 19, 2008 1:01 AM
I love this blogging! I hope if they do this next year the voters will vote for different style inside the house, a lot of what went into this one when into the first one. I hope the next one will be different.It would be fun to see different counter top, fireplace, ect.
Posted by: Gen at February 24, 2008 6:54 AM
It is my hope that you look at the enviroment around which this house is being built and that you try very hard to be as GREEN as possiable with probably having seprate water systems for grey and waste. Also, have this house being self suffiencent with Solar panels and possiable with some type of co-generation. In addition give thought to the ecology concerning having a house so close to the water - possiably using wood that are not preserved with chemicals that would contaminate the area. And, lastly give some creedence to the true meaning of GREEN in that on some of your shows you show the use of compact floresent bulbs with mecury in them. This is a big NO NO - GREEN means GREEN.
Just my thoughts!
Posted by: Roy at March 3, 2008 10:39 PM
How does one go about entering to win the cabin? How did it work on the first cabin? I appreciate your comment, and could not find these answers anywhere on the site.
Thanks!
Posted by: Norm Snead at March 31, 2008 5:37 PM
I love watching the progress of this home and reading all of the blogs. I am very interested in how and when one goes about entering to win the cabin? I could not find any reference to this on any of the sites. I appreciate your comments.
Watson: Hi Peggy - because we are at the mercy of the actual construction and shooting schedules, the dates of the actual sweepstakes are fluid - but look for your chance to win in late summer / early fall (around August). Thanks for your interest!
Posted by: Peggy Ross at April 4, 2008 8:01 AM
